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    I am quite buoyed up that BJ has had the guts to walk. Too often we are manipulated by situations and far from running he simply stood his ground and said no. Why should he agree to be harangued by a posse of rent a crowd already given the 'honour' of being welcomed by Bettel? Thank you BJ for the first time in a while I am relieved that someone from Westminster has made a stand.

    Have held my breath so long I'm going blue! xx

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    I'm sick of all this Brexit stuff I'm going to cheer myself up and watch Arsenal throw away a two goal lead on i player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    I'm sick of all this Brexit stuff I'm going to cheer myself up and watch Arsenal throw away a two goal lead on i player.
    Go for it! LOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T00ts View Post
    I am quite buoyed up that BJ has had the guts to walk. Too often we are manipulated by situations and far from running he simply stood his ground and said no. Why should he agree to be harangued by a posse of rent a crowd already given the 'honour' of being welcomed by Bettel? Thank you BJ for the first time in a while I am relieved that someone from Westminster has made a stand.
    Yes it is quite encouraging, because it may show he is actually prepared to do the same on 31st October and end the agony.
    Then we might get down to some real business.

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    Not sure there was much point standing there while the baying mob drowned him out. What would that have achieved.

    As for the EU having enough of us, we aren't seemingly members of EU anymore https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...ures/living_en
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    Apart from anything else, you can't hear what they are saying with a crowd shouting behind them. It drives me nuts when they are on 'the green' and people are screaming and shouting behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    Not sure there was much point standing there while the baying mob drowned him out. What would that have achieved.

    As for the EU having enough of us, we aren't seemingly members of EU anymore https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...ures/living_en
    Where is Sheeps? That link cheers me up no end. The EU have already wiped us from the record, we are no longer a slice of pie! I couldn't happier. All we need now is Westminster to recognise the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T00ts View Post
    Where is Sheeps? That link cheers me up no end. The EU have already wiped us from the record, we are no longer a slice of pie! I couldn't happier. All we need now is Westminster to recognise the fact.
    Have we left yet????

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    Have we left yet????
    Well.... the link from #15 certainly seems to prove we have. We are no longer included in EU numbers. Whoopee!!!

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    Having reflected on this overnight, Boris Johnson's move was actually ok from his point of view.

    If he had turned up to the press conference, everyone would have seen that he had nothing of substance to say, and it would have been just the usual piffle paffle.

    By not showing up, he controlled the narrative and made it about whether the EU is being nasty to poor old England. That will please his supporters, and the people who see if for what it is will never be his supporters anyway, so he has little to lose there.

    As to Beelbeeb's point, it does seem to indicate what I noted for some time already, which is that the EU is already pretty resigned to a no deal Brexit and is not scared of it, which is why the belief that they will cave in the last second when they realise we are serious is, in my opinion, wrong.

    I would also like to thank Conchur for pointing out something I hadn't really actively clocked before, which is that the Brexit ultras like David Davis, Boris and so on who keep saying that the EU always caves in at the last second, are generally referring to deals that were done internally within EU states - they erroneously believe that a leaving state will be treated with the same urgency or priority.

    It's also pretty clear if you follow EU political news, that the EU generally believes, rightly or wrongly as you want to believe, that the UK will be in a worse position after a no deal Brexit and a weaker negotiating position - therefore they will then actually be able to offer a worse deal than the one currently agreed, which actually some EU country politicians argued was too favourable to the UK already.

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