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    Boeing should top China's blacklist

    1. Boeing Co. has been negotiating one of the largest orders ever of wide-body jetliners with Chinese airlines even as tensions between Washington and Beijing escalate, say people familiar with the talks.

    The discussions center on about 100 twin-aisle jets: 787 Dreamliners as well as 777X planes, the newest long-range aircraft in Boeing’s lineup, said one of the people, who asked not to be named as the talks are private. Negotiations have focused in particular on the 777-9 variant, the planemaker’s costliest jet with a $442.2 million sticker price, ahead of the model’s expected first flight later this month.

    2. If China were to go ahead in blacklisting foreign firms, Boeing should be at the very top of the list for the following reasons:

    (a) Boeing has received more state and local subsidy dollars than any other corporation in America, according to newly released data compiled by Good Jobs First, a policy resource center on subsidy data.

    (b) Boeing is one of the US companies benefited from Taiwan’s purchases of missile defence systems, attack helicopters, fighter jets, and other amphibious assault vehicles. The latest news is that the US is pursuing the sale of more than US$2 billion worth of tanks and weapons to Taiwan. The potential sale would include 108 General Dynamics Corp M1A2 Abrams tanks (US army's best tanks) worth around US$2 billion as well as anti-tank munitions.

    (c) In October 2001, days before its planned maiden voyage, Chinese military communications experts discovered numerous high-tech listening devices planted inside China's presidential aircraft, a new Boeing 767-300ER. The Chinese source said that 27 listening devices had been found, including devices in the presidential bathroom and in the headboard of the presidential bed. The devices were highly sophisticated as they "had to be triggered by a satellite communication".

    It is laughable that the Trump administration is spreading worldwide propaganda that Huawei is spying for the Chinese government. The Boeing spying episode proves the close ties between the company and CIA. Hence all countries should be aware of the "spying bald eagle".

    Please also don't forget the US global surveillance programme in which the US spied on "the entire globe" in 2013, including all its allies. Even the mobile phone of German leader Angela Merkel was not spared by US bugging.

    "Allies spy on each other because they don't have identical interests," says Jeffrey Richelson, author of The US Intelligence Community. "There are very few allies that are so close that there's no point in collecting intelligence."

    "In the 1920s and '30s, the UK used covert methods to monitor the US," he said.

    (d) Acting United States Secretary of Defence Patrick Michael Shanahan previously spent 30 years at Boeing in a variety of roles. This proves the close ties between Boeing and the Pentagon, and indirectly the US government.

    Shanahan takes a hawkish stance on China, warning he won't "tiptoe" around Chinese behaviour in Asia. Under him, the US not only increases arms sales to Taiwan but also sells 34 ScanEagle drones, made by Boeing, to Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines and Vietnam for a total of US$47 million.

    (e) In a meeting at the White House on May 23, 2019, Donald Trump said: "Huawei is something that is very dangerous. You look at what they've done from a security standpoint, from a military standpoint, it's very dangerous."

    Similarly from the standpoint of China and the rest of the world: "Boeing is something that is very dangerous."

    China has to bear in mind that if the mega deal between Boeing and Chinese airlines were to go through, there won't be a word of thanks from Donald Trump and other white supremacists. Instead the huge profits will be used to make more powerful weapons to slaughter many Chinese soldiers and civilians in the end.

    If Huawei is a threat to America, as claimed by Donald Trump, Boeing is a real threat to China.

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    Beggar can't be choosers. Clearly the Chinese are loaded and buying the best there is. Boeing should be very happy with themselves that they still have something to sell that those with the dollars want to buy. They should take a moment to reflect on those of them in other industries like the car, where everyone is closing up shop for good.
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    The other thought is that if the Chinese can exchange a lot of Paper Dollars for a lot of very useful Aircraft......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    The other thought is that if the Chinese can exchange a lot of Paper Dollars for a lot of very useful Aircraft......
    I've known it for a long time. My brother visited Hong Kong a few year back. They have seven star hotels over there, and I've seen the pictures. It's like the new Saudi Arabia. Also you see the kind of flights they buy. They will pay $30k to fly from China to America. They have far more money than the Western media think they have. Perhaps it is the way they calculate the average income. They include all the undeveloped parts of China. Those in the new cities are rolling in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    I've known it for a long time. My brother visited Hong Kong a few year back. They have seven star hotels over there, and I've seen the pictures. It's like the new Saudi Arabia. Also you see the kind of flights they buy. They will pay $30k to fly from China to America. They have far more money than the Western media think they have. Perhaps it is the way they calculate the average income. They include all the undeveloped parts of China. Those in the new cities are rolling in it.
    There’s 11 star Metaxa brandy in Corfu. It’s not as good as Remy Martin. Even so, tourists from all over lap it up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
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    There’s 11 star Metaxa brandy in Corfu. It’s not as good as Remy Martin. Even so, tourists from all over lap it up...
    I thought Corfu was larger-lout central. I stopped off in the Costa del Sol for a few days when working down that way a few years back and that was bad enough. The Chinese would never tolerate that sort of behaviour. They are civilised.

    Actually if you go onto Youtube you can see what these $30grand flights are like. They are done by Cathay Pacific, especially for those in Hong Kong and China with lots of cash. You'll be shining their shoes before long!
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