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    New Zealand mosque shootings

    It had to happen I suppose extremist nutters attack mosques in Christchurch New Zealand so far those dead in double figures.

    And so someone somewhere will kill a lot of non Muslims in reprisal,ain't the world a lovely place?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47578798
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    Awful. 49 dead. What a senseless waste of life. What a ****ed up world we live in.

    I guess some people see what happens around the world at places of worship (or at concert venues etc) and think it only right for an equal and opposite reaction, even when they personally are not affected in any way, shape or form. And as you say Crom, others will see this and think that an equal and opposite reaction is the only appropriate course of action to take to avenge this attack. And so it goes around and around.

    What I don't understand in all this, is the collective nature of things. For example, Lee Rigby's killers came from Nigeria, lived in Britain and killed him because of something happening to Muslims in the Middle East. Something that has never affected them personally. I am guessing that these WASPs (I'm assuming they are) in Christchurch have done the same thing. Seen Muslims kill people somewhere in the world, and for some reason feel that they are the ones who have to take revenge, even though they have not been affected in any way, shape or form.
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    I think they chose New Zealand as it's seen as a tranquil place pretty much isolated from this sort of thing,that'll all change now of course.
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    I'm listening to the radio, and the call-in on LBC has a British Muslim calling in, and saying that it is an affront to all Muslims, that the Muslim community are feeling awful and that there are double standards in play. When a Muslim does it, it is terrorism, and in this case it isn't. Nick Ferrari explained why, but that's not really the point. How often do we see these self same outraged Muslims condemning actions in Pakistan, Egypt, Nigeria etc where Christians are slaughtered at worship? We get tacit (at best, although some might say that it not being more explicit, shows a certain amount of condoning going on) condemnation of attacks in Manchester, Paris, Orlando etc. with it being explained (I'm not going to go as far as to use "excused") as a reaction to what has happened in Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria.

    I'm in no way at all condoning today's attacks or any attack, but more focusing on the nature of how the religious card is played, and played IMO to increase the divisions that already exist between the communities in this country and the West. These attacks today were done by a group of nutters (lone wolves) the other side of the world, and to me should be taken as an isolated attack, not an attack against all of Islam throughout the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cromwell View Post
    I think they chose New Zealand as it's seen as a tranquil place pretty much isolated from this sort of thing,that'll all change now of course.
    New Zealand has one of the largest and most dangerous gangs on the planet. (But you won't find that in the tourist advertising.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankou View Post
    New Zealand has one of the largest and most dangerous gangs on the planet. (But you won't find that in the tourist advertising.)
    So what has that got todo with terrorism!
    Numbnuts on motorbikes or Maori gangs aren't terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cromwell View Post
    So what has that got todo with terrorism!
    Numbnuts on motorbikes or Maori gangs aren't terrorists.
    I am merely pointing out New Zealand is not the idyll the tourist board would have us believe. (No country is.)
    Such incidents can happen anywhere.

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    I lived in New Zealand for a couple of years, they are very insular and felt at the time the the outside world didn't affect them much. There is al arge gang culture, but I never witnessed any of it thankfully.

    RIP terrible, loss of life to nutters.

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    Seriously, how can anyone just shoot Innocent, unharmed people at point-blank rage, including children? Incidents like this just make you feel sick.

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    If they are under the impression they are doing anyone a favour, they are not. They are merely stirring up and continuing the cycle of extremist violence.
    I condemn this attack in every way.
    They took your country from you, now they've taken your democracy too.
    And "they" are the elites, those who hate the culture of the people, the values of the people, the democracy of the people.

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