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    A different perspective on immigration: Germany

    This might seem slightly off-topic, but I believe it is relevant.

    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...-16036607.html

    It's a german article, but I've been told a decent number of people here are fluent in German.

    The gist of it is that a study by the Bertelsmann group claims that Germany needs around 260.000 immigrants per year to sustain its GDP growth and links the GDP growth decline of Germany in 2018/2019 with the decline in immigrants. Of these immigrants, 140.000 are expected to come out of EU member states, whereas the rest needs to be recruited from non-EU states.

    The reasons cited for this are the ageing German population and low birth rates especially among the upper middle and upper class.

    From what I've seen, the ageing problem also exists in the UK and especially England.

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    I would suspect that most members are not fluent in German, are you able to provide a translation please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Young Thing View Post
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    I would suspect that most members are not fluent in German, are you able to provide a translation please?
    Hi Bright Young Thing. I probably could but the relevant document spans over 116 pages:

    https://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/...erung_2019.pdf

    If that's not ok, feel free to delete the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rei View Post
    This might seem slightly off-topic, but I believe it is relevant.

    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...-16036607.html

    It's a german article, but I've been told a decent number of people here are fluent in German.

    The gist of it is that a study by the Bertelsmann group claims that Germany needs around 260.000 immigrants per year to sustain its GDP growth and links the GDP growth decline of Germany in 2018/2019 with the decline in immigrants. Of these immigrants, 14000 are expected to come out of EU member states, whereas the rest needs to be recruited from non-EU states.

    The reasons cited for this are the ageing German population and low birth rates especially among the upper middle and upper class.

    From what I've seen, the ageing problem also exists in the UK and especially England.
    Don't buy the turd they are selling you. This is what we were told. Some did okay, but millions were discarded so business and profit seekers could keep making lots of money.

    Germans will lose skills, and education and they will be replaced from cheaper sources (likely whilst telling you that you're lazy).

    On the other side of the coin, if you embrace this, sooner or later you'll understand what drove brexit.

    (Thanks for the link BTW)

    https://translate.yandex.com for those who aren't fluent.
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    Sorry, not good at German.
    I do English very well, Spanish pretty well, French badly, Morse code very well and that's about it.
    Of course, if WW2 had gone badly I might have spoken German better, sorry.
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    The nonsense of this article is around 80% of incoming migrants go on the dole.

    Just left propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Sorry, not good at German.
    I do English very well, Spanish pretty well, French badly, Morse code very well and that's about it.
    Of course, if WW2 had gone badly I might have spoken German better, sorry.
    My Dad taught me donner und blitzen, hande hoc, ya, nein, and I picked up a bit on holiday in Austria, was vollen sie?
    Bier seems pretty universal, though.
    You got most of those wrong...

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    As we are discussing Germany, where is Angela Merkel ?

    German Politicians are quoted more and more in the press both here and in Europe, and on the net etc., worried , in fact fearful , about the impact of a no deal Brexit on Germany, especially on the car industry and the heavy job losses as a result, so immigration may be put on hold if hundreds of thousands of German workers are redundant?


    So where is she?


    Is she another who puts the EU above her own country, or has her influence wained now that she is to step down as Chancellor?




    Nb.

    As ships are always ‘she’ its a good thing that another female was voted in to fill the future ChancellorShip of Germany?

    She will lead a coalition government I.e a partnerShip?


    Another good thing is that she will not have to forego lederhosen for a frock, ok, perhaps we’ll skirt ‘around that one?



    Actually , thinking about it, should it still be called GerMANy ??









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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    As we are discussing Germany, where is Angela Merkel ?

    German Politicians are quoted more and more in the press both here and in Europe, and on the net etc., worried , in fact fearful , about the impact of a no deal Brexit on Germany, especially on the car industry and the heavy job losses as a result, so immigration may be put on hold if hundreds of thousands of German workers are redundant?


    So where is she?


    Is she another who puts the EU above her own country, or has her influence wained now that she is to step down as Chancellor?




    Nb.

    As ships are always ‘she’ its a good thing that another female was voted in to fill the future ChancellorShip of Germany?

    She will lead a coalition government I.e a partnerShip?


    Another good thing is that she will not have to forego lederhosen for a frock, ok, perhaps we’ll skirt ‘around that one?



    Actually , thinking about it, should it still be called GerMANy ??








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