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    Quote Originally Posted by Rei View Post

    Gavin Williamson intends to argue in a speech at the Royal United Services Institute on Monday that a post-Brexit UK should redefine its role as a global power prepared to intervene against countries that “flout international law”, backed up by new military technologies and capabilities.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...vin-williamson
    Williamson is a Remainer so probably means that he wants the British army to join up with the Europeans to invade the UK. They will probably land at Eriskay and march on London, get lost, end up in Derby before being fettled by the Campbells at Culloden with the cost of the campaign being met from the Barnett Formula. Once again the Scots will retreat before a barrage of English guineas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    Now, there is an idea but, rather than just weapons training, why not include public service emergency training such as fire-fighting and rescue, ambulance and paramedic, or even full medical auxiliary? They would still require many of the non-lethal technologies — including air, land and sea transport.
    It might even appeal to those who object to the whole idea of military excursions into other countries...
    Credit where its due, your elaboration has much to recommend it. Of course much of our military already has only the most basic weapons and battle training before moving onto their non-combatant second stage training. Many functions in the army predominantly provide support to those who actually do the fighting. For instance the Royal Engineers, the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, Royal Logistics Corps, Adjutant General's Corps, Royal Medical Service incorporating Queen Alexandra's Royal Nursing Corps, and parts of the Royal Flying Corps. With increased funding each of these would have the skills and resources to contribute to your concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borchester View Post
    Williamson is a Remainer so probably means that he wants the British army to join up with the Europeans to invade the UK. They will probably land at Eriskay and march on London, get lost, end up in Derby before being fettled by the Campbells at Culloden with the cost of the campaign being met from the Barnett Formula. Once again the Scots will retreat before a barrage of English guineas.
    He's a remainer? He seems more the type who supports gunboat politics.

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    The UK, just like the EU and USA are in the NATO. There will be no invasion. But if he thinks to scare the russians by increasing the army, let's hope those russians nuclear rocket have a good aim and will not hit the rest.

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    Csdp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinset View Post
    The UK, just like the EU and USA are in the NATO. There will be no invasion. But if he thinks to scare the russians by increasing the army, let's hope those russians nuclear rocket have a good aim and will not hit the rest.
    Russians have already summed up our defence minister rather well.

    "A kid in a tank shop"

    His own military advisors were seen rolling their eyes when he suggested our warships could paintball the Spanish navy re Gibraltar, so why would they waste a nuclear weapon against a child?

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    Maybe because they have so many nuclear rocket nobody would notice one is missing?

    Beside the joke, now that you are talking about Gibraltar, there is a discussion in there, let's leave alone, but this does not mean it is not important, that a 96% of the people in there voted to remain, apparently the EU does not recognize the Gibraltar as UK not even as a colony, and the Spain in many occasions has proven they want that land back. This brexit is harming the UK and making USA and Russia happy at the end of the day.

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    The answer to Gibraltar for Spain is to ask them when they will be returning Ceuta y Melilla to their rightful owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Sinic View Post
    Perhaps your contempt for your adopted country colours your view on this, as on most things. Depending on one's source the UK has the fifth or sixth most powerful military force in the world despite its shortcomings. By almost any standard this places us firmly in the military premier league, despite the underfunding of the military since 1997, certain vanity projects excepted, coupled with its extensive global military operations under Blair's Labour government.

    However whilst your contempt for the military is both unjustified and, I suspect, based on a chip on your shoulder which I have seen before, your suggestions regarding a change of emphasis toward civil defence and home security have merit in my opinion.
    I have to say i do think our military resources have been overused in the role of being the world's policemen, when we should just stand back, let them blow each other to hell, or die of god knows how many war-generated diseases of failed infrastructure and hygiene

    There comes a point where "humanitarian aid" is pointless when all it does is revitalise the combatants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinset View Post
    Maybe because they have so many nuclear rocket nobody would notice one is missing?

    Beside the joke, now that you are talking about Gibraltar, there is a discussion in there, let's leave alone, but this does not mean it is not important, that a 96% of the people in there voted to remain, apparently the EU does not recognize the Gibraltar as UK not even as a colony, and the Spain in many occasions has proven they want that land back. This brexit is harming the UK and making USA and Russia happy at the end of the day.
    Nuclear weapons/war are no joking matter...

    You been trained to survive in a nuclear contaminated environment? If you have, you'll be aware of just how difficult it is to urinate, never mind actually do anything constructive.

    Why does Brexit make the US happy? They've lost their back door into the EU (where they are currently tying to interfere with energy supplies).

    Why does Brexit make Russia happy? Big bad Putin? Am reminded of his wise words about respecting international laws.

    As for Gibraltar, it's no loss. The military turning types will be distraught, but the rest of us really don't care. Especially when you consider it's dirty tax status.

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