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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnda View Post
    No, the EU is not irrelevant. If, in the future, your children want to move to Germany or Holland without any problems at all and work there or set up business or whstever.... they will not be able to do so if we leave the EU. We will be denying your children what you yourself enjoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    Oh come on. Bookmakers just give odds to balance things out to mitigate any losses and maximise profit. If I place a bet for £10m on us leaving, then their odds would dramatically swing. Look at the last time people presumed they knew what was going on with Brexit - we voted to leave.
    The odds reflect the opinion of the punters... in particular on the betting exchanges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnda View Post
    No, the EU is not irrelevant. If, in the future, your children want to move to Germany or Holland without any problems at all and work there or set up business or whstever.... they will not be able to do so if we leave the EU. We will be denying your children what you yourself enjoyed.
    How so - I moved to Germany before Freedom of Movement came in.

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    I started working in EEC in 1991. I seem to remember having to get an international driving licence and that was it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    I started working in EEC in 1991. I seem to remember having to get an international driving licence and that was it.
    If you were a resident in the EEC, I don't think you needed that. You could have obtained a licence from the country you were living in.

    Anyway, nowadays, after Brexit, you will lose all your EU rights and therefore you will have problems and insecurity in every way, never knowing what could happen if such and such a thing happened... would you be kicked out, would you have a huge (medical, for example) bill, would you lose your job, would you be able to have a "normal" bank account, would you be allowed to claim what would be your due "back home".

    I have known several of the above before the EU and I have known how it was to be treated exactly as a a fellow citizen with all the rights and security in the EU. I know I woud never go back to the pre-EU status.

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