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    Quote Originally Posted by sirocco View Post
    The conservatives pledged no deal is better than a bad deal, and have reversed that. They are now saying that their deal, which hard leavers have said is not really brexit at all, is better than any bad deal such as no deal at all. i think they are now pushing to remain.

    Labour pledged it would not accept any form of Brexit which harmed the UK. So thats all of them.
    The people in charge of the deal always wanted to remain and still do. They are weighing whether the impending rioting will be worth remaining.

    Only 1/3 voted to leave. Now its about 55% wanting to remain. Democracy demands we remain.
    Oh yes, I see what you did there. Twisting the referendum result from 51.9% down to 33% is tantamount to lying. Your 55% is a figure plucked out of the air, as only votes count.
    Should be safe then, because I dont recall any Blair riots. And any riots under heath were about union relations. Oh, and the Irish blowing people up, of course. Bloodshed does seem to be coming back in ireland because of Brexit.
    There has not been peace under the Good Friday agreement. Only relatively speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    The people in charge of the deal always wanted to remain and still do. They are weighing whether the impending rioting will be worth remaining.


    Oh yes, I see what you did there. Twisting the referendum result from 51.9% down to 33% is tantamount to lying. Your 55% is a figure plucked out of the air, as only votes count.
    Any honest politician, if an honest politician does exist at all, can tell you that with a 2% more votes you are not going anywhere, this is also one of the reasons you are still not leaving. Those 48% of people who voted to remain did not need a brainwashing propaganda, and that 70% of people who voted to join, and that's a majority, probably they had some good reasons to join, and those good reasons will come back once you are out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    There has not been peace under the Good Friday agreement. Only relatively speaking.
    This is true, also the EU has done nothing than just putting a patch in there. As long there is that border there will be problems because the border itself is the problem. Or you put a patch on it like you did with your agreement or like the EU did, or you must get rid of that border, it means you have to invade the rest or ireland or you have to give back the NI. That place was a war zone and it might become a real problem if not fixed soon.

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    Any honest politician, if an honest politician does exist at all, can tell you that with a 2% more votes you are not going anywhere, this is also one of the reasons you are still not leaving. Those 48% of people who voted to remain did not need a brainwashing propaganda, and that 70% of people who voted to join, and that's a majority, probably they had some good reasons to join, and those good reasons will come back once you are out.
    They only voted for a trade block,which exactly what they are due to receive.Nothing else whatsoever.Everything else was done underhandedly by politicians.Anyway when was the last time a government turned out 72.2% of the electorate and didn't govern?
    17,410,742 people said LEAVE!

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    So, only 33% voted to leave , and therefore 67% didnít - therefore the argument is that -


    A. 33% is not a majority of eligible voters


    B. If 33% said leave then clearly 67% didnít want to leave ?


    C. Anyway some people have since changed their mind?


    So, letís have a re-run, so that we can get the Democratic result overturned, and get the one I wanted, and whilst we are at It Doctor, I think that we need to look at some other results -






    General Elections




    1945 labour win with 48% of vote so 52% did not want Labour - rerun the election, just in case ?


    1950 Labour win with 46% . So 54 % didnít want Labour Re-run the election


    1951 Labour win with 48% so 52% didnít etc re-run


    1955 Tories. win. with. 49.7 %. so. 50.3% didnít etc re-run
    1959 Tories win. with 49.4. % re-run
    1964 Labour win with 44% % re-run
    1969 L 44% same
    1970 Con 46% same


    Etc etc etc -


    At every Election and referendum, itís been the same story, weíd better Ďre-run them allí?


    Ok Doctor Iíll keep taking the tablets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    So, only 33% voted to leave , and therefore 67% didnít - therefore the argument is that -


    A. 33% is not a majority of eligible voters


    B. If 33% said leave then clearly 67% didnít want to leave ?


    C. Anyway some people have since changed their mind?


    So, letís have a re-run, so that we can get the Democratic result overturned, and get the one I wanted, and whilst we are at It Doctor, I think that we need to look at some other results -






    General Elections




    1945 labour win with 48% of vote so 52% did not want Labour - rerun the election, just in case ?


    1950 Labour win with 46% . So 54 % didnít want Labour Re-run the election


    1951 Labour win with 48% so 52% didnít etc re-run


    1955 Tories. win. with. 49.7 %. so. 50.3% didnít etc re-run
    1959 Tories win. with 49.4. % re-run
    1964 Labour win with 44% % re-run
    1969 L 44% same
    1970 Con 46% same


    Etc etc etc -


    At every Election and referendum, itís been the same story, weíd better Ďre-run them allí?


    Ok Doctor Iíll keep taking the tablets!
    The last general election in which the government enjoyed a majority of the popular vote was one held between ww1 and ww2.

    Since then the three way (at least) split has ensured a 'minority' Got the government they voted for
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    Lord Clyde: "Ayrshire Pullman Motor Services V Inland Revenue, 1929"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rei View Post
    UK has most of these things already. Aside from the blue passports.
    Exactly - but we'll lose most or all of these things if we leave the EU. Get with the programme!!
    I dahn do non-judgement'aw. ... and put ya blinkin' shirt on mate, wiwya!

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