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    Holocaust remembrance

    If we had a minutes silence for the 6,000,000 Jews killed in the holocaust of WW2 we would be silent for 11.5 years.
    That does not include these:

    Soviet citizens 4.5 million
    Soviet POWs 2.8–3.3 million
    Poles 1.8–3 million
    Serbs 300,000–600,000
    Disabled 270,000
    Romani 130,000–500,000
    Freemasons 80,000–200,000
    Slovenes 20,000–25,000
    Spanish Republicans 7,000
    Homosexuals 5,000–15,000
    Jehovah's Witnesses 1,250–5,000
    (wikipedia)

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    are the jews admitting Rwanda was genocide now....

    in ask because when the jews decided to start ramping up the holocaust remembrance day thing in the media about ten years ago now channel 4s anchor man had the stones to ask the chief rabbi outright if other groups such as the Rwandans deserved a place on their podium, and a visibly affronted and outraged chief rabbi threw back a declaration that the jews deserved PARTICULAR observation and day to themselves...

    In recent years, they have changed their tone a little ...
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    What about the poor old Armenians? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armeni...de_recognition

    Hardly anyone recognises that. The bit from the link that is of course interesting....

    A tad spineless from a nation that is not renowned for being spineless, nor caring what its neighbours think about it. If one was a cynic, one might suspect that no gatecrashers were wanted

    Position of Israel[edit]

    Officially Israel neither recognizes nor denies the Armenian Genocide. This stems from a few geopolitical considerations. First, according to The Times of Israel, "Israel is a small country in a hostile neighborhood that can't afford to antagonize the few friends it has in the region. Even more powerful states refuse to employ the 'genocide' term for fear of alienating Turkey...."[246] Second, Israel shares a "budding friendship" with Azerbaijan, a "Shiite Muslim but moderate country bordering Iran" that also strongly opposes recognition.[246]Third, according to former Israeli minister Yossi Sarid (one of the country's most vocal supporters of Armenian Genocide recognition), Israel tends to follow policies set by the United States, which has not recognized it.[247] Despite these concerns, many prominent Israeli figures from different sides of the political spectrum have called for recognition.[246][247]


    A tad spineless from a nation that is not renowned for being spineless, nor caring what its neighbours think about it. If one was a cynic, one might suspect that no gatecrashers were wanted! And even less "popular" was the other part of the Turkish operation, which was against the Greeks where 500k-1m were killed.

    And then going back to Africa, Rwanda has been mentioned, but what about the Belgian Congo? That was supposedly about 8-10m people wiped out, but maybe black lives don't matter. It doesn't even feature on some lists of genocides. Pol Pot's actions seem to have been ignored too, with anywhere between 1.5-3m being killed. Then we have Serbia which is close and fresh in the memory, although maybe being less than 1m it doesn't count. How about Indonesia in the 1960s where up to 3m were killed? Or Bangladesh in the 1970s, where again up to 3m were killed? Or the Ukranians in the early 1930s (Holodomor), with high estimates of 7.5m?

    But maybe there is a difference....the holocaust has its own "title", while the rest are grouped under genocides. And this of course ignores what happened in China, who don't believe in half measures.

    It seems that we are very selective in who we think is worthy of remembering.

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