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    The fate of The United Kingdom

    Are the brexiteers not worried about The UK spitting apart? One would have to think a second referendum in Scotland to leave and join the EU could take place and Northern Ireland also leaving the UK and then there is London where Kahn is wanting to form his own little country.

    This is just speculation and fear is a powerful tool to push people into different directions but those two states voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    Any thoughts on the future of the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junckrfu View Post
    Are the brexiteers not worried about The UK spitting apart? One would have to think a second referendum in Scotland to leave and join the EU could take place and Northern Ireland also leaving the UK and then there is London where Kahn is wanting to form his own little country.

    This is just speculation and fear is a powerful tool to push people into different directions but those two states voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    Any thoughts on the future of the country?
    "Any thoughts on the future of the country?"

    Plenty. And you are just regurgitating issues we have talked about on here many times.

    For a start, I forecast the demolition of the Welsh Assembly on the grounds that if 52 to 48 on a 70% turnout is "undemocratic", so is 50.18 to 49.88 on a 38% turnout, but Labour, who have enjoyed a 22 year fiefdom there thanks to Blair's destruction of the union with devolution in 1997 on the basis of that second set of figures, seem exceptionally keen to overturn the first of those results BUT NOT THE OTHER

    speaking for myself, i have no fears over the united kingdom splitting apart. I think england and wales should be given a referendum on kicking the annoying buggers north of the border out. And as for northern ireland, well, let's see how they fare without us now the bombings have restarted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junckrfu View Post
    Are the brexiteers not worried about The UK spitting apart? One would have to think a second referendum in Scotland to leave and join the EU could take place and Northern Ireland also leaving the UK and then there is London where Kahn is wanting to form his own little country.

    This is just speculation and fear is a powerful tool to push people into different directions but those two states voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    Any thoughts on the future of the country?
    Scotland could go independent and NI could join with the rest of Ireland at any time - Brexit is irrelevant to that. remember that 40% of Scots wanted to leave the UK 2 years before Brexit so anyone who bases their view on whether Brexit is a good idea (or not) on the basis of Scotland or NI leaving is being rather naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junckrfu View Post
    Are the brexiteers not worried about The UK spitting apart? One would have to think a second referendum in Scotland to leave and join the EU could take place and Northern Ireland also leaving the UK and then there is London where Kahn is wanting to form his own little country.

    This is just speculation and fear is a powerful tool to push people into different directions but those two states voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    Any thoughts on the future of the country?
    UK will leave, eventually, Ireland will also leave the EU, because there is already growing interest to do so, and Scotland might leave England but will regret it.
    those princes have accomplished most who paid little heed to keeping their promises, but who knew how to manipulate the minds of men craftily.

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    Well funnily enough I was listening to one of the masters of the universe earlier,who was very angry that according to them we have between us destroyed a hundred years of education.Since when was brainwashing education.
    17,410,742 people said LEAVE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junckrfu View Post
    Are the brexiteers not worried about The UK spitting apart? One would have to think a second referendum in Scotland to leave and join the EU could take place and Northern Ireland also leaving the UK and then there is London where Kahn is wanting to form his own little country.

    This is just speculation and fear is a powerful tool to push people into different directions but those two states voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    Any thoughts on the future of the country?
    I can't see it bothering anyone. If the Scots and Welsh left then there would still be the English who make up 80% of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott777 View Post
    UK will leave, eventually, Ireland will also leave the EU, because there is already growing interest to do so, and Scotland might leave England but will regret it.
    Ireland may be forced to leave because IF the U.K. leaves without a backstop in place the E.U. will find it has a large hole in it's tariff wall with the rest of the world. The U.K. as said it will not breach the Good Friday Agreement. Ireland has also said it will not put up a hard border with the North. IF these pledges are honoured then Ireland will be dropped from the E.U. single market until it toes the line. Faced with an invidious situation a referendum will likely decide that the Republic will withdraw from the E.U.

    Incidentally, if there is another referendum and Scotland were not included (because it is assumed they want to remain) there would be a landslide vote for the rest of the U.K.to leave. In that respect, England could benefit. Why, however, would it not be possible for Scotland to be in the E.U. and remain part of the U.K. At the moment, the E.U. is not a fully fledged Federation - although that is on the cards. The problem Scotland would face would be the same as Ireland; i.e. either a hard border or a backstop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
    Ireland may be forced to leave because IF the U.K. leaves without a backstop in place the E.U. will find it has a large hole in it's tariff wall with the rest of the world. The U.K. as said it will not breach the Good Friday Agreement. Ireland has also said it will not put up a hard border with the North. IF these pledges are honoured then Ireland will be dropped from the E.U. single market until it toes the line. Faced with an invidious situation a referendum will likely decide that the Republic will withdraw from the E.U.
    Ahead of #EuropeDay, support for Ireland remaining in the EU has jumped to over 90% for the first time.Spanning all age groups and regions, 92% agree that Ireland should remain part of the EU #EuropeDay

    https://twitter.com/dfatirl/status/993838618606211072

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rei View Post
    Ahead of #EuropeDay, support for Ireland remaining in the EU has jumped to over 90% for the first time.Spanning all age groups and regions, 92% agree that Ireland should remain part of the EU #EuropeDay

    https://twitter.com/dfatirl/status/993838618606211072

    "Europeday ?"

    Ah, a twatterverse "hash tag" thing. How unsurprising.

    The Treaty of Rome was signed by six countries, four of whom we had to spill british blood to rescue from the warmongering of the other two.


    Hey, when we leave, can we have the six grand on offer here ?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8461676.html

    There's this great place we can dump them, called South Georgia. Or even Gibraltar, who voted 98% to remain. Let's show them why that was a really bad idea ...
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    The solution to Ireland's border issue is technology. The E.U. have at long last admitted that the "backstop" is a paper tiger. It is unnecessary. Given the choice of dropping Ireland out of the single market and finding a workable system using technology, the E.U. boffins will probably put their thinking caps on.

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