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    Ireland wants hundreds of millions in EU aid to mitigate damage of no-deal

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    Well, there is a turn up for the books. For months we have had the Irish turning up on this board explaining the come 29 March we will end up with the backsides hanging out of our trousers because of Brexit. But instead the Irish will be brown nosing Brussels for a few hundred million euros so that they can afford pig feed while the British will be about £39 billions better off.

    As a great Irishman once said, you would need a heart of stone not to piddle yourself laughing.
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    Nobody, except die hard leavers, really wants a no deal Brexit, it is illogical to desire a more costly and administratively nightmarish outcome than that of a decent deal, the one thing that is leading us down this road is the Irish Government’s insistence on the ‘backstop ‘.


    If this nonsense is ditched from the withdrawal agreement, then Parliament will vote to accept the agreement, Leo will fade into the background and Ireland will not have to be bailed out financially - again- which is likely to be the situation with a no deal scenario.


    This interference ‘in our affairs’ by another country ‘s Government ,whether this be Ireland or the EU, is reason enough to want to gain our lives back again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    Nobody, except die hard leavers, really wants a no deal Brexit,
    That's a lot of people, it seems.
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    Well, if we leave the EU, the one thing will be for sure. Whether or not Ireland asks for, or gets, hundreds of millions of euros from the EU to mitigate the effects of Brexit will have nothing to do with Britain. Even if it comes directly from the £39 compensation Britain is expected to have to pay, it will still be nothing to do with us. It's between Ireland and the EU. Brexiters can sit in their armchairs huffing and puffing and going puce in the face but they will have zero power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperduck Quack Quack View Post
    Well, if we leave the EU, the one thing will be for sure. Whether or not Ireland asks for, or gets, hundreds of millions of euros from the EU to mitigate the effects of Brexit will have nothing to do with Britain. Even if it comes directly from the £39 compensation Britain is expected to have to pay, it will still be nothing to do with us. It's between Ireland and the EU. Brexiters can sit in their armchairs huffing and puffing and going puce in the face but they will have zero power.
    If we leave the EU we won't be paying any sort of compensation to the EU. And while there seems to be a belief that the EU has a magic money tree that will provide such subs as the the Micks might desire, the money will probably have to be raised on the London markets. This will be good news for the UK and bad for the Irish because the interest and fees will probably be taken off any refunds they get from Brussels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperduck Quack Quack View Post
    Well, if we leave the EU, the one thing will be for sure. Whether or not Ireland asks for, or gets, hundreds of millions of euros from the EU to mitigate the effects of Brexit will have nothing to do with Britain. Even if it comes directly from the £39 compensation Britain is expected to have to pay, it will still be nothing to do with us. It's between Ireland and the EU. Brexiters can sit in their armchairs huffing and puffing and going puce in the face but they will have zero power.
    No problem. We just jack up the landing fees paid by irish citizens entering or leaving britain until we get the money back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnofgwent View Post
    No problem. We just jack up the landing fees paid by irish citizens entering or leaving britain until we get the money back.
    That would:
    A) reduce the number of Irish people visiting Britain and . . .
    B) Ireland or even the EU as a whole would retaliate by introducing similar charges for British people visiting Ireland or the whole of the EU.
    Not exactly great for Britain's tourist industry!

    If we leave the EU we won't be paying any sort of compensation to the EU.
    You can say that all you like but it has no bearing how things turn out. If we leave the EU we'll probably have to pay the compensation. If Brexit is reversed and we stay in, then our next government should surcharge UKIP, its former leaders, officials and MEPs for all the money wasted on Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperduck Quack Quack View Post
    That would:
    A) reduce the number of Irish people visiting Britain and . . .
    B) Ireland or even the EU as a whole would retaliate by introducing similar charges for British people visiting Ireland or the whole of the EU.
    Not exactly great for Britain's tourist industry!
    Well, that presumes large numbers of irish come here for the tourism. The only such I know have cans without tax disks and les than roadworthy caravans. They are the sort of tourist we can do well without.
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    Lord Clyde: "Ayrshire Pullman Motor Services V Inland Revenue, 1929"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperduck Quack Quack View Post
    That would:
    A) reduce the number of Irish people visiting Britain and . . .
    B) Ireland or even the EU as a whole would retaliate by introducing similar charges for British people visiting Ireland or the whole of the EU.
    Not exactly great for Britain's tourist industry!



    You can say that all you like but it has no bearing how things turn out. If we leave the EU we'll probably have to pay the compensation. If Brexit is reversed and we stay in, then our next government should surcharge UKIP, its former leaders, officials and MEPs for all the money wasted on Brexit.
    You need to keep up with the news quackers,they have already said before this we will have to pay to go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnofgwent View Post
    Well, that presumes large numbers of irish come here for the tourism. The only such I know have cans without tax disks and les than roadworthy caravans. They are the sort of tourist we can do well without.

    Well john for whatever reason there are an estimated 350 000 irish nationals in the disunited kingdom , of which an estimated 15 000 are travellers.

    So as ever , you appear to be conflating a tiny minority with the majority as you oft do , and tarring them all with the same brush.

    Quackers makes a reasonable point , in that whatever punitive actions brexit leads to , these will be returned in kind by other nations.

    ...but then as you and many of your peers think the disunited kingdom is still a world power in its own right , the mere thought of other nations daring to punish the uk , hitting its citizens hard , never crosses your mind does it?

    If brexit doesnt deliver the utopia brexiters promised ,and uk citizens are hit with punitive actions due to brexit , then you and your ilk are going to be lower than the dog muck on newports streets and treated with the same disgust.
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