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    That ended with another nothing burger then.
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    Just found this article published yesterday, I was wondering what the problems could be getting a "general cargo" truck through customs post a hard Brexit and no customs union:-

    More at link:-

    http://www.handyshippingguide.com/sh...ies-ahead_9601

    At a meeting in Lille today Richard Burnett, the Chief Executive of the Road Haulage Association (RHA) spelled out clearly a problem even more troubling than the paucity of transit permits being made available to UK hauliers, saying the situation was dire.
    Earlier the Border Delivery Group, charged with ensuring border traffic can flow unhindered post Brexit, claimed although much extra customs paperwork will be needed, itís hoped it can be done away from the border to avoid queues, saying it recognised the challenges but will prioritise 'flow and fluidity'. It claimed considerable preparation work had been done on contingency planning.
    Telling a meeting of French businesses and officials at the Hauts de France regional government headquarters that this planning for road transport in the event of no deal was simply 'not robust enough', Burnett illustrated the potential problems by citing one case of a haulier who has 8,000 different shipments on a lorry, each requiring an Import and Export declaration and a Safety and Security Declaration. With 3000 trucks a week crossing the channel for that one firm alone that would mean millions of pieces of paperwork. He said:
    ĒWith each declaration taking 10 minutes you would need 170 people working 8 hours a day to process one load. Customs processes simply wonít work. Itís critical we keep volume moving in case of a No Deal Brexit and UK haulage businesses are deeply concerned about the lack of clarity and information.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankou View Post
    Just found this article published yesterday, I was wondering what the problems could be getting a "general cargo" truck through customs post a hard Brexit and no customs union:-

    More at link:-

    http://www.handyshippingguide.com/sh...ies-ahead_9601

    At a meeting in Lille today Richard Burnett, the Chief Executive of the Road Haulage Association (RHA) spelled out clearly a problem even more troubling than the paucity of transit permits being made available to UK hauliers, saying the situation was dire.
    Earlier the Border Delivery Group, charged with ensuring border traffic can flow unhindered post Brexit, claimed although much extra customs paperwork will be needed, itís hoped it can be done away from the border to avoid queues, saying it recognised the challenges but will prioritise 'flow and fluidity'. It claimed considerable preparation work had been done on contingency planning.
    Telling a meeting of French businesses and officials at the Hauts de France regional government headquarters that this planning for road transport in the event of no deal was simply 'not robust enough', Burnett illustrated the potential problems by citing one case of a haulier who has 8,000 different shipments on a lorry, each requiring an Import and Export declaration and a Safety and Security Declaration. With 3000 trucks a week crossing the channel for that one firm alone that would mean millions of pieces of paperwork. He said:
    ĒWith each declaration taking 10 minutes you would need 170 people working 8 hours a day to process one load. Customs processes simply wonít work. Itís critical we keep volume moving in case of a No Deal Brexit and UK haulage businesses are deeply concerned about the lack of clarity and information.Ē
    So, what we now see is the realisation that it will suddenly become much more profitable to run a truckload of 44 tonnes of one item, needing one piece of paper, between a warehouse on one side of the channel and another on the other, and let people sort out mix and match shipments to and from each side free of all the pissing about that christ knows how many bits of paper will be needed for the current ro-ro operations.

    And as i said before, no more polist, latvian, lithuanian and romanian cowboys stretching the rules to breaking point on our side. what's not to like
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    Lord Clyde: "Ayrshire Pullman Motor Services V Inland Revenue, 1929"

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnofgwent View Post
    So, what we now see is the realisation that it will suddenly become much more profitable to run a truckload of 44 tonnes of one item, needing one piece of paper, between a warehouse on one side of the channel and another on the other, and let people sort out mix and match shipments to and from each side free of all the pissing about that christ knows how many bits of paper will be needed for the current ro-ro operations.

    And as i said before, no more polist, latvian, lithuanian and romanian cowboys stretching the rules to breaking point on our side. what's not to like

    Actually a 44 tonne Gross Vehicle Weight usually carries 25 tonnes. Not that many on the Dover Calais crossing would be carrying just one type of cargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankou View Post
    That link is pay walled and if you bothered to check what ports are in that group, they are NOT roll on roll off ferry ports and do not include Dover.
    So the comments from the Tim Morris are irrelevant to the problem of the chaos that will happen at Dover.
    That is fake news - they DO include ro-ro ports among their members (although not Dover)

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