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    If the Democrats dont get their act together then Trump will get another 4 years. Most of the Dem candidates so far are just playing to their base and we saw in 2016 that doesn't work.

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    I saw this in another place.

    “Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

    Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:


    "A few things spring to mind.


    Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.


    For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.


    So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.


    Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.


    I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.


    But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.


    Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.


    And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.


    There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.


    Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.


    Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.


    And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.


    Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.


    He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.


    He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.


    And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.


    That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.


    There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.


    So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
    * Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
    * You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.


    This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.


    After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.


    God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.


    He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.


    In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.


    And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:


    'My God… what… have… I… created?


    If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."

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    He's still president despite all the attempts at de-legitimising him. Could even go another term. 52% approval rating just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertcornercrew View Post
    I saw this in another place.

    “Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

    Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
    I am afraid I am going to disagree with your "magnificent response" bit (although I presume that that is also the opinion of the other place). To be British is to have manners. What he wrote, picking out what he perceives to be Trump's shortcomings is not what a gentleman would write. Coupled to that, it is overly verbose.* A British gentleman would write something a lot more concise and something impersonal, which with the right understanding would say all that needed to be said.

    * As a total aside, but as a demonstration for intelligence and brevity, General Charles Napier's one word message, said so much. "Peccavi". (Well actually he never said it, but it was magnificently attributed to him in an article submitted to Punch in 1844).
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    The magnificent response bit was part of the quote

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    The "President" was overwhelmingly defeated by the popular vote--the largest loss in recorded history. The Electoral College was created to stop unfit candidates from gaining office. It didn't.

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    In my opinion..one of the best presidents ever...A president who stuck to his promises in the face of leftist rallys against him and his family.How proud was I when he said hel put America 1st...like him or loathe him hes put USA 1st..if only we had a leader and a peoples that want to put the UK 1st.He stood up to immigrants drugbarrons and terrorists and hes winning....I believe in the wall irrespect of how its built.But for me his greatest moment was when he won against Clinton....but not just Clinton..I recall the showmen that she bought in on her campaign which she couldnt lose.....there were Springstein..Jzee..Katy Perry..Obama ..Oprah...just about everyone and everyone ready to line there pockets by denouncing him and supporting Clinton...What a joke..They were all counting there money by gaining more support and contracts and selling more concerts and albums by the gullible public who follow them..not me I quietly suspected Trump would win and omg what a kick in the teeth for those left wingers who showed there true colours ..Il never buy a Springsteen track I cant tolerate his point of view...likewise Katy Perry and all the others who came out and slagged the guy off.....and I think some if not all are so hypocritical in that nobody..nobody supports not one of trumps actions or admit hes done anything thats commendable....publicly...however privately ..i suggest Springsteen..Perry Obama and all the other two faced arseholes are so pleased there not living next to druglords and terrorists.....Twofaced *******s....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazed View Post
    The "President" was overwhelmingly defeated by the popular vote--the largest loss in recorded history. The Electoral College was created to stop unfit candidates from gaining office. It didn't.
    Well as the election was never designed to use the popular vote then rather immaterial. The choice of an electoral college was to protect States Rights - quite natural in a Union of States.

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    He was SO up his own arse he thought he was a president,but forgot that while he is a republican in the English sense of the word, Britain isn't a republic. Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albertcornercrew View Post
    I saw this in another place.

    “Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

    Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:


    "A few things spring to mind.


    Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.


    For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.


    So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.


    Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.


    I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.


    But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.


    Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.


    And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.


    There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.


    Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.


    Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.


    And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.


    Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.


    He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.


    He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.


    And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.


    That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.


    There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.


    So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
    * Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
    * You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.


    This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.


    After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.


    God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.


    He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.


    In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.


    And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:


    'My God… what… have… I… created?


    If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
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