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    If US blue collar workers (especially them) get more $$$ in their pocket, then they'll think that he isn't the worst POTUS. It seems a tad irrelevant how whiny little British folk judge him.

    But if we do want to judge US presidents, then US foreign policy is much more relevant. I think that the Bush family turned USA into the most hated nation on Earth (with poodle Britain being not far behind). Clinton did sweet FA to rectify it, nor did Obama. Trump, he's more interested in MAGA (unlike the previous 4 POTUS), which doesn't really involve us in this country. It seems that a lot of people feel put out that they aren't part of his plans and/or that he isn't going to accept their terms of trade anymore.
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    It's what he has not done which is the best bit. The Americans have not had any wars recently. In living memory I can't really think of a time when they were not involved in some sort of war. It has all calmed down now. Trump is a businessman, so he has been running the country like a business. Like Thatcher, I don't think he bothers reading the papers. He's too busy making money for the country, and he uses his intuition to do that. We know it is good. He built the family property business from large to mega-sized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    There is nothing being said by the OP. If you want us to reply to your ideas, perhaps a little more than you don't like him would be a start.

    As I understand things, he is taking action to root out the communist infiltration in the American state government, and some are squealing.

    Presumably you prefer McCarthy! lol.
    Rooting out communists? Did you not notice the fall of the iron curtain in 1989? Or the implosion of the USSR in 1991? Rooting out communists is conspiracy theory thinking rooted in the past.

    The problem today is not communist infiltration, but Russian. And here Trump is a major part of the problem rather than the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    It's what he has not done which is the best bit. The Americans have not had any wars recently. In living memory I can't really think of a time when they were not involved in some sort of war. It has all calmed down now. Trump is a businessman, so he has been running the country like a business. Like Thatcher, I don't think he bothers reading the papers. He's too busy making money for the country, and he uses his intuition to do that. We know it is good. He built the family property business from large to mega-sized.
    That is very true so far.

    I do find the attitude his detractors take, a little nonsensical as they put him in a no win situation. Prime example is with Putin - he get's lambasted for being overly pally with him. If he was confrontational, you just know that those self same people would criticise him for being reckless and endangering world peace. Personally I prefer the acquiescence. (As an aside, I always think that when the Russian navy sales through the English Channel, that we shouldn't send out a shadow, but instead we should invite them into Portsmouth).
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    That is very true so far.

    I do find the attitude his detractors take, a little nonsensical as they put him in a no win situation. Prime example is with Putin - he get's lambasted for being overly pally with him. If he was confrontational, you just know that those self same people would criticise him for being reckless and endangering world peace. Personally I prefer the acquiescence. (As an aside, I always think that when the Russian navy sales through the English Channel, that we shouldn't send out a shadow, but instead we should invite them into Portsmouth).
    Russia is one of those places with its banks run by organised crime. I don't think they are a military threat any more. Their hardware is ageing. If they ever tried it would be like watching those 70s tanks of Hussain's being blown up by modern British ones. Russia is just the typical kind of country out there which you have to watch you back when dealing with. I mean you'd probably find the same corruption in South America. We can still do business with them. Putin is quite pragmatic, but I think the West have been trying to steal their land, so obviously they are going to send out warning shots and they are still capable of causing some serious damage if they wanted to. It's more to do with the stupidity of Americans handling them. You don't go in there and see if you can grab a bit of land just in case they might not mind. Same thing down in the seas around China, there is land dispute there was well. I think the Russians and Chinese have had very moderate responses given the antagonism they are faced with. Neither want military action and both want peace and free trade. Also of course it is not all down the president. The military has millions working for it, and Trump does not directly employ them all. It takes time to reform the culture of a large organisation. You have to sack a lot of people. Anyway, I think maybe he has given an overall good impression. He's employing a different strategy where all the military commanders argued for years would not work, ie. peace and whatever it is they call a P45.
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    I sometimes think I am living on a different planet to some people here. I'm not sure where to start. How about "the west" stealing back land from Russia. You mean land that Russia had annexed in the relatively recent past? Then the whole of the South China sea and the new, created "land" there that is claimed by China now claimed by China when regarded as international waters. Neither Russia and China want to start a war but then as long as there is no resistance they could do what they like. Perhaps the UK, Holland and/or Norway should claim ownership of the North Sea. Then heralding Trump's business acumen - when you start life with the wealth he had, it is not so difficult to get the best and most crafty advisers and to find ways of playing the system, not necessarily always legally, to keep hold of it, avoid/evade taxes and ensure that when your companies go belly up you can ensure that you personally do not get put under the chapter 11 clauses. It certainly takes someone to have no moral responsibility to do that. I do not find that anything to admire. Trump did not even have to think of these things himself but just has to have enough moral bankruptcy to avoid the financial version.

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    Trump is a nut,who thinks he can control everything and everyone from the White house,it is his idea of making America great again.But it is backfiring big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    That is very true so far.

    I do find the attitude his detractors take, a little nonsensical as they put him in a no win situation. Prime example is with Putin - he get's lambasted for being overly pally with him. If he was confrontational, you just know that those self same people would criticise him for being reckless and endangering world peace. Personally I prefer the acquiescence. (As an aside, I always think that when the Russian navy sales through the English Channel, that we shouldn't send out a shadow, but instead we should invite them into Portsmouth).
    But Trump appears to operate like the kitchen makeover companies that take customers' money then liquidate, only to reappear and begin the same scams all over again.
    Trump admits to bankruptcy, saying: "four times we used certain laws that are there." The first three he rolls in to one.
    So he's possibly treating US citizens the same way as he's often treated shareholders in his casinos, hotels and entertainment resorts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    But Trump appears to operate like the kitchen makeover companies that take customers' money then liquidate, only to reappear and begin the same scams all over again.
    Trump admits to bankruptcy, saying: "four times – we used certain laws that are there." The first three he rolls in to one.
    So he's possibly treating US citizens the same way as he's often treated shareholders in his casinos, hotels and entertainment resorts...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.2c43cee7c4a3

    Maybe Pat, but I go back to what I wrote earlier.... It seems a tad irrelevant how whiny little British folk judge him.

    Too many people have a jaundiced opinion of the man, and regardless of what he does, have their firmly entrenched views on him. But I would agree with what someone wrote earlier. In a nation of 320m, is the best that could be done really a choice of Clinton/Trump??
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    As an Aussie, I think that Trump is for all the right reasons, the right man at the right time.

    Sure you could have had a politician or more of a game player or an establishment Globalist or a more PC, charming, diplomatic, graceful, articulate leader but the results would be the same and the Western World in unison would continue marching off the cultural cliff. At least now we get to examine values and question why we blindly accept things presented to us as "truth" or necessarily "good" or "bad"

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