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    The Draft agreement


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    The Draft agreement

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    To paraphase one of our last great political leaders Winston Spencer Churchill "Never in the field of British politics and Brexit was so much expected by so many of so few......only to be bitterly disappointed"

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    Withdrawal Agreement

    Condensed explainer on the text of the WA.

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...18-6422_en.htm

    Also a condensed explainer regarding the NI "backstop" protocol.

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...18-6423_en.htm

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    Looks like its been taken down already by the EU.

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    If you were a betting man would you think this would get past the HoC vote, will T May get her majority.
    So far she's clinging on but isn't that how chequers went and finally mps started to change their minds.

    I'm no T May fan, but you do have to admire her staying power and the fact she's got the brexit process this far, considering the fractious govt position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwalker View Post
    Looks like its been taken down already by the EU.
    Nope both still up. No problem viewing them from my phone.

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    Man in charge of negotiating Breixt deal resigns because he cannot support the Brexit deal he negotiated....

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    Question:

    Now the withdrawal deal¹ is out in the open we can rank our preferences.

    What order (1 being most preferred, 3 least) would you rank

    A) Withdraw a50, remain in EU on current terms (however that is achieved)

    B) Leave with no withdrawal agreement

    C) accept the withdrawal agreement negotiated

    My preference (surprising nobody) would be
    A=1, C=2, B=3


    ¹Note this is the deal that covers the withdrawal and transition period²

    The arrangements beyond the end of transition is *yet to be negotiated*

    ² the transition period will run until Dec 2020 but there is provision for this to be extended until "20XX" (so presumably 2099!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by beelbeeb View Post

    The arrangements beyond the end of transition is *yet to be negotiated*

    ² the transition period will run until Dec 2020 but there is provision for this to be extended until "20XX" (so presumably 2099!)
    I think this is the game changer. No end to the transitional period. You couldn't make it up...but some one just did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
    I think this is the game changer. No end to the transitional period. You couldn't make it up...but some one just did!
    It's both good and bad.

    It's good in the sense that it (potentially) avoids any "cliff edge" scenario of the click running out before a future deal is done. Negotiations (and no deal iterations, if that's your thing) can now be conducted with less time pressure.

    It's bad (particularly for hard core Brexiters) because it effectively makes real their argument that the UK has to follow EU rules with no say in them. Note that even they are now admitting that the UK does¹ have a say in the rules at present.

    ¹Edit: original post had typo substituting "doesn't" for "does" <facepalm>

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