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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    Remarks from Putin today make it pretty clear that Russia is going to put this down as a Friendly Fire Accident; in public at least.
    I suspect that it has been made very clear that the next time Israeli jets come close to Russian aircraft and launch attacks without proper notice that Russian Air Defenses will intervene.
    Well after reading thousands of post around the internet,telling the Russians that is exactly what they should do.Make the defences so it doesn't happen again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    Causing the shoot down of a Strategic Asset, like an Intelligence/Reconnaissance Aircraft is not a small deal, especially with the loss of 15 specialist personnel. This is a matter of considerably greater importance than the Turkish downing of the SU-24 in 2015. This is a matter that will require a robust response, otherwise the Russian Military will lose credibility.

    I think also that simply banning tourist and Houmous will not be enough in this instance.

    Is a Cruise Missile attack an escalation too far at this stage? Possibly and could be.
    I do believe however that the next Israeli Air-raid party will find itself at the wrong end of Russian Air Defenses at the very least.
    The only question is whether Russia will consider that to be enough and immediate enough as an answer?

    For its part, Israel knows that it has been vital to its operations to keep the Russians out of it. They will be unhappy if this advantage has been thrown away.

    Do we have such disregard for life that we (this is the Royal We) place the 15 lives from a "Strategic Asset" somewhat higher than the 298 lives lost over Ukraine on flight MH17? While the Russians might want to retaliate because their Syrian allies were trigger happy fools, what retaliation should take place for the shooting down of MH17? (Not that is was the first plane that the Russians shot down - it did two Korean Airline planes some years back).

    And blaming Israel for it? Pah. They didn't pull the trigger. Seems that they were just being sensible and using cover so not to be shot at.
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    Well. now we have the response.
    Russia is supplying Syria with S-300 Missile Systems.
    This is what I so admire about Putin, when others are caught up in rhetoric and emotion, he stays cool and never takes his eye of the ball or the strategic objectives.
    Earlier plans to supply Syria with the S-300 were put on hold, following representations from Israel......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45626251
    https://www.rt.com/news/439190-russi...ning-reaction/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    Well. now we have the response.
    Russia is supplying Syria with S-300 Missile Systems.
    This is what I so admire about Putin, when others are caught up in rhetoric and emotion, he stays cool and never takes his eye of the ball or the strategic objectives.
    Earlier plans to supply Syria with the S-300 were put on hold, following representations from Israel......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45626251
    https://www.rt.com/news/439190-russi...ning-reaction/
    He is no ones fool for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    Well. now we have the response.
    Russia is supplying Syria with S-300 Missile Systems.
    This is what I so admire about Putin, when others are caught up in rhetoric and emotion, he stays cool and never takes his eye of the ball or the strategic objectives.
    Earlier plans to supply Syria with the S-300 were put on hold, following representations from Israel......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45626251
    https://www.rt.com/news/439190-russi...ning-reaction/
    They won't be in Syria for long, Sampan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    They won't be in Syria for long, Sampan.
    Well apparently there are hot heads in the Middle East who need calming down so I get the feeling they will be there for quite a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepy View Post
    Well apparently there are hot heads in the Middle East who need calming down so I get the feeling they will be there for quite a while.
    Unless this is code for "we can takeout the S-300s"
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/252690

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Unless this is code for "we can takeout the S-300s"
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/252690
    Maybe,but then it would escalate to S400's and if F35's start getting shot out of the sky,it wouldn't go down well at all,in fact Vlad has just sold India S400's so its better to know the boundaries than think there are not any.
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