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    Scouts sued over inclusion dilemmas

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...st-due-autism/

    i really feel feel sorry for the VOLUNTEERS who were trying to cover their backs. This Mrs. Gleeson has gone to the courts, so would she baulk at sueing the troop leaders if her special needs child suffered a mishap? I doubt it.

    Will those VOLUNTARY leaders continue?
    If I were them I would consider leaving the Scouting Movement.

    A sad sad day for all concerned.

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    the scout movement shot itself when it let girls in. Try getting a boy into a brownie pack to see what I mean. after that they laid themselves bare to shite like this
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    This is utter nonsense. The Scout Group behaved perfectly well and stated that he could participate so long as the lad had supervision. I see nothing wrong with that what so ever. Its almost as if Mrs Gleeson is using the scouts as some sort of respite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggart View Post
    This is utter nonsense. The Scout Group behaved perfectly well and stated that he could participate so long as the lad had supervision. I see nothing wrong with that what so ever. Its almost as if Mrs Gleeson is using the scouts as some sort of respite.
    I'd have more sympathy with the Gleesons if they had just accepted their costs being paid,they say they have donated some of the money to an autistic charity,wasn't the fact they won and the scout group acknowledging some mistakes were made enough?
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    I have a disabled kid and accept that certain groups do not have people running clubs that are trained nor have the know how to handle him. It is a fact of life that having a mental disability sometimes limits what he can join in doing, same as others with any disability. I do not go crying discrimination. Having said that, I was "disappointed" when the RDA (Riding for the disabled) said he was too difficult to handle and was kicked off of their course. But with the Scouts, if they handled things in a way that wasn't ideal for the Gleesons, then so be it. S*** happens and the intent was not to be discriminatory. I guess that's one of the problems of today - intent is never taken into account and people are far too often to take (faux??) offence and sue.

    Another problem with this, is what does fining the Scouts £42k achieve? Surely it takes away from others that use their services. As an aside, my lad had his humerus broken at school - rather than apologise, the school took an overly defensive attitude that I assumed was out of fear of me suing them.
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    well, for a whole set of reasons my eldest seems to be able to get on with all sorts of children with all sorts of "problems".

    just before she started in nursery, the school she attended - the largest in the county - had several classrooms "repurposed" as a political measure to include within mainstream schools children who in my day would have been segregated. Several classes for children who were profoundly deaf were set up for example and a few others. Sarah came out of junior school reasonably proficient in british sign language as a result, and still has deaf friends she made then.

    She also seems to have a knack of getting on with autistic kids.

    POSSIBLY the dyslexia she had to learn to overcome, with the help of my money that paid for her programme with the Dore Foundation, because the state were totally rubbish at helping in any way at all, contributed to that.

    What I know is there's an entire playground full of "problem kids" (thankfully not the bar steward that stabbed her with a jewellers screwdriver about seven years ago and put her RIGHT off teaching for years, until this year in fact) who get on famously with her, to the surprise of the rest of the teaching staff ... the reason is the kids now in mid junior school all know and remember her from the infant school she worked at, the swimming lessons she gave them, the brownie unit she helped at, etc etc. The bottom line is I'm getting just a little tired of hearing someone saying "they just cant believe how well their kid gets on with whatever" when Sarah's involved compared to whatever they were like before.

    I'm tired of hearing it because I'm tired of nobody shouting long and hard that Sarah deserves to keep the job she's doing because when she gets chucked off it when the fixed term contract ends they'll be back to square one ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cromwell View Post
    they say they have donated some of the money to an autistic charity
    Autism is a scam. It doesn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    Autism is a scam. It doesn't exist.
    Yes it does,your evidence that it's all a scam is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    Autism is a scam. It doesn't exist.

    I really hope you are joking. (If not you need to get yourself informed about autism as a matter of urgency.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    Autism is a scam. It doesn't exist.
    Well, you really need to tell my nephew that, as he can't speak because of his autism.
    Obviously your knowledge is greater than the doctors. Thanks for sharing it, now I know autism is a scam. ****

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