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    democratic accountability and morality of actions and the ability of opposition and the general populous being able to question
    Its a fair point,not that they like it one bit of course,probably why you can never get a straight answer from a politician.
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    Israel v Iran currently being played out on the Gazan border with Hamas wanting to invade Israel and tear out their hearts.
    They play to the BBC getting as many youngsters in the firing line as possible. Putting babies into the CS gas, then photographing them when they are dead.
    The media rise to defend the invaders, those poor downtrodden peaceful protesters. Do not be deceived, Hamas only have one intention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Israel v Iran currently being played out on the Gazan border with Hamas wanting to invade Israel and tear out their hearts.
    They play to the BBC getting as many youngsters in the firing line as possible. Putting babies into the CS gas, then photographing them when they are dead.
    The media rise to defend the invaders, those poor downtrodden peaceful protesters. Do not be deceived, Hamas only have one intention.
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    Hamas certainly bear some reponsibility but the people supported this action willingly and the people in Gaza support Hamas because they see no viable alternatives. Would you have blamed the jews for the Warsaw uprising in 1944? I don't blame the IDF who were acting under orders to defend the border either, but I do blame the whole situation on the intransigence of both sides to reach any sort of sensible agreement. And I blame Israel moreso because they have the money, power and strength to act in a more conciliatary way towards the Palestinian people and to, at least, make an effort to resolve the continuing pressure on the Palestinians from Israeli extremist idealists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumzed View Post
    Hamas certainly bear some reponsibility but the people supported this action willingly and the people in Gaza support Hamas because they see no viable alternatives. Would you have blamed the jews for the Warsaw uprising in 1944? I don't blame the IDF who were acting under orders to defend the border either, but I do blame the whole situation on the intransigence of both sides to reach any sort of sensible agreement. And I blame Israel moreso because they have the money, power and strength to act in a more conciliatary way towards the Palestinian people and to, at least, make an effort to resolve the continuing pressure on the Palestinians from Israeli extremist idealists.
    Using people as sniper practice who are peacefully protesting and locking up Israelis for peacefully demonstrating against the Israeli governments actions is not on the list of how you treat your electorate in a democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepy View Post
    Using people as sniper practice who are peacefully protesting and locking up Israelis for peacefully demonstrating against the Israeli governments actions is not on the list of how you treat your electorate in a democracy.
    That's very true.

    However the Arabs are not peacefully protesting, are they? Even Hamas admit that 50 of those killed were their "operatives", or as Israel would say, terrorists. They are actively trying to break down the border, infiltrate Israel and kill as many Jews as they can. So, less of the "peaceful protest" BS as peaceful protests don't use burning tyres to create a screen for gunfire, petrol bombs, rockets, and catapults and balloons with incendiary devices.

    Peaceful protest is a lot of people with placards saying "Down with Israel" or suchlike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    That's very true.

    However the Arabs are not peacefully protesting, are they? Even Hamas admit that 50 of those killed were their "operatives", or as Israel would say, terrorists. They are actively trying to break down the border, infiltrate Israel and kill as many Jews as they can.
    Not a single Arab who was injured was peacefully protesting?

    If they were actively trying to break down the border, how much damage was done so far?

    What evidence is there that all the injured Muslims were trying to kill Jews?

    How many Jews were killed or injured by Muslims?

    How many Muslims crossed the border?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott777 View Post
    Not a single Arab who was injured was peacefully protesting?

    If they were actively trying to break down the border, how much damage was done so far?

    What evidence is there that all the injured Muslims were trying to kill Jews?

    How many Jews were killed or injured by Muslims?

    How many Muslims crossed the border?
    Here is how i know nutters are running the world,IS has a plan that if they can get everyone to invade the Middle East it will bring about the downfall of Israel,Jesus will return and only save those who are worthy,much like the evangelicals believe.Israel patches up IS recruits and sends them back into the field because they hate the Syrians and the Iranians because they want to keep the Golan heights and any other land they have stolen.The Saudis who are Wahhabi and so are IS but in its truest form,so does that make the evangelicals actually Wahhabi.So has Israel taken up a belief in its own destruction because of its actions or because of its own greed.I was just reading how IS wants prince George dead,but a few weeks ago the Queen had the chief Wahhabi along for tea and biscuits and offered up more arms in return for announcing more rights for women.While over in the US the Trump administration are arming up the Saudis and the Zionists.While at the same time picking on the Iranians for helping the defeat of IS.Now tell me if it is a mad,mad,mad world or not.
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    Time to bring out General Wesley Clarke again. Time to look at what's really happening.

    "The truth shall set you free But first it will make you miserable" - James A Garfield 20th President of the United States.

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    Good video clip of Wes Clark speech. I have posted a few times that people should read about the "Project for a New American Century" and, if you have not done so, "A Clean Break" - a paper prepared by Richard Perle et al intended as advice the Benjamin Netanyahu. It is surprising, actually more like shocking, how much power and influence was held by the so called neocons led by a group from the "American Enterprise Institute". This small group drove US foreign policy during the Bush era and still has significant influence in the US, though well past its peak now.

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    I shall await Donald Trump saying,well we all play games.Funny his seem the same games he said he didn't know about.
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