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    Well let me keep up on things,Boris said we would bomb Assad if it was proven he had used gas,as well as agreeing with everything the Yanks are doing against the North Koreans,well it turns out that a dossier has come to light,saying the North Koreans have been sending gas to the Syrians.No way you say,well wait and see then,if I am wrong.
    Oh and as the Russians are friends with both sides,it can only be assumed as one thing.
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    https://finance.yahoo.com/video/us-s...213042547.html
    LOL don't anybody want to talk about it?
    Better check the war chest,oh but wait,there is a note in the bottom,sorry all spent out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    The MSM reporting of the Syrian conflict just gets more weird and well, dishonest, by the day.
    The Ceasefire Agreement, does of course cover the whole of Syria, but for some reason only the locality of the East Ghouta is being reported!?
    What is not being reported is the ongoing Afrin offensive by the Turks and their associated militia against the Kurds, in what must be the most flagrent breach of the agreement in the country. It is also now obvious that the FSA (Free Syrian Army) is nothing more than a proxy Turkish force and only interested in fighting for the military objectives of Turkey.

    In large parts of the rest of the country, the Government guns have indeed fallen silent. The exceptions being against the remnants of ISIS in Deir Ezzor and the current offensive against Al-Qidae and its associates.

    In the East Ghouta itself a major offensive against the Islamists is taking place. The East Ghouta incidentally is a multi layered fortress with heavy implacements, reinforced trenches and a massive tunnel network throughout its area. Some of these tunnels being big enough for Heavy Armour Vehicles to travel through.
    The bombardment of the last two weeks has been all about reducing these fortified areas, to enable a meaningful ground assault to go ahead.
    The area currently held by the terrorists is about half that was held until about two years ago and the start of a number of effective offensives over that time.
    The East Ghouta has been a graveyard for the SAA (Syrian Arab Army) in the past, with many advances bought at a very heavy price and whatever shortages of food and medicine there may be, such shortages do not seem to extend to weapons (many heavy and advanced) and ammunition.
    The Syrian Government has moved its most effective assault units to this zone and the ground assault has now started with significant gains on the Eastern Front, led by the Tiger Force, that cleared out East Aleppo and City and then chased Isis from the Suburbs of Alleppo all the way to the Iraqi border last year.

    If there is one thing in which I find the MSM reporting particularly dishonest is the description of the plight of the civilians. The typical spin is that these are besieged and imprisoned in the East Ghouta by the Syrian Government. The Syrian Government and allies however say that the terrorists is using them as human shields and are shelling the humanitarian evacuation corridors that the Government side has set up. We saw the very same thing (and spin) during the liberation of East Aleppo.
    Interestingly the BBC does let the cat out of the bag with a short sentence at then end of yesterdays very long article on the Website. Its very easy to miss or misread.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43208705



    So here we are. tacit admission that there is a situation where nearly 400,000 people are being held in a hostage situation by terrorists and somehow we are supposed to be supporting the terrorist hostage takers.!!??

    You really could not make this sort of stuff up.
    Anyway it is reported that Bloomberg and Murdoch have invested heavily in oil exploration on the Golan heights,knowing they are both full on maniacs I wouldn't be a bit surprised by anything reported.
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    I don't suppose anyone missed the closing down of some railway stations in Manchester and London at the weekend when people trespassed on the lines in support of the Kurds, who are being ethnically cleansed from Afrin, close to the Turkish border. This is in total contravention of the ceasefire, but the world concentrates on East Ghoutta where the Islamist rebels are being cleared up, which should virtually bring an end to the civil war. (One hopes)

    I wonder what the UN will do to prevent this ethnic cleansing. Last time something happened like this, so close to home, action was taken in Bosnia to defeat the Serbs.
    It seems that Kurds have less value than Bosniaks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I don't suppose anyone missed the closing down of some railway stations in Manchester and London at the weekend when people trespassed on the lines in support of the Kurds, who are being ethnically cleansed from Afrin, close to the Turkish border. This is in total contravention of the ceasefire, but the world concentrates on East Ghoutta where the Islamist rebels are being cleared up, which should virtually bring an end to the civil war. (One hopes)

    I wonder what the UN will do to prevent this ethnic cleansing. Last time something happened like this, so close to home, action was taken in Bosnia to defeat the Serbs.
    It seems that Kurds have less value than Bosniaks?
    Well at the moment, the Kurdish fighters are leaving the Euphrates Valley and the fight against the residual pockets of ISIS by the battalion and heading west towards Aleppo province and Afrin.
    The Syrian Government has already sent some local pro Government fighters into the city of Afrin to help defend the Regional Capital and apparently some large Elite Divisions from the Regular Syrian Army (SAA) are forming up on in Government controlled areas on the edge of Afrin.

    In the UN today, Us spokeswoman Nicky Haley made threats against Syria, saying that the US would act alone against Damascus, if the UN failed to achieve a common position.
    So, in short, the Kurds are now aware that their US allies are planning to attack the forces of the Government that are helping them, but not prepared to lift a finger against the Turkish forces which are attacking them.
    Its not exactly Rocket Science to see that the western Coalition is coming rapidly unpicked at the seams!

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    If anyone had any doubts about the events on Salisbury being little more than side show, today's news shows that Syria is still hotspot no:1
    Both Lavrov and the Russian M.O.D have responded to US UN Spokesmans Nikki Halleys comments yesterday about unilateral strikes by the US against Syria.
    Essentially both are saying that any such strike would be deemed a strike against Russian Servicemen on the ground and would generate a very serious reaction with both US missiles and their Carriers being targeted by return.

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    Unfortunately the public's fatigue with long-running war stories is notorious especially if most of them see it as taking place half a world away. Syria is currently such case for most of the British public, which is currently more concerned about Salisbury and its fall out...
    The poster reserves the right to amend or completely change any opinions he has posted at any time meanwhile, still waiting for the whip hand that Enoch forecast...

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    A Quick recap of the situation in the East Ghouta.

    Two of the three remaining rebel held areas have now surrendered and the rebels with such as wish to go with them are being transported to Idlib near the Turkish border. No surprise here, as the groups which are surrendering are Turkish backed.

    The most northerly of the three areas; the Town of Douma, has so far refused to surrender. This group is a Saudi backed group and has nowhere else really to go.

    I also thought it may be of interest to film some footage shot today of the Syrian Army entering one of the more Southerly suburbs currently being surrendered and seeing the reaction of the local residents to their arrival. Its embedded in the article.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...-suburb-video/
    Needless to say, it is highly unlikely you will see any of this on the BBC or any other mainstream media outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampan View Post
    A Quick recap of the situation in the East Ghouta.

    Two of the three remaining rebel held areas have now surrendered and the rebels with such as wish to go with them are being transported to Idlib near the Turkish border. No surprise here, as the groups which are surrendering are Turkish backed.

    The most northerly of the three areas; the Town of Douma, has so far refused to surrender. This group is a Saudi backed group and has nowhere else really to go.

    I also thought it may be of interest to film some footage shot today of the Syrian Army entering one of the more Southerly suburbs currently being surrendered and seeing the reaction of the local residents to their arrival. Its embedded in the article.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...-suburb-video/
    Needless to say, it is highly unlikely you will see any of this on the BBC or any other mainstream media outlet.
    Seeing the celebration and rejoicing on the part of the civilians in East Ghouta as the Syrian army under the command of President Assad liberates them from rebels, one might be a little perplexed at the West's continued condemnation of the Assad regime, and the western medias continuing to paint Assad as the third Antichrist.

    One thing that I, admittedly as a relatively uninformed observer, feel fairly sure about is that if the West had kept their interfering noses out of this civil war it would have been over years ago with far less loss of life. Indeed Assad may well have secured his country, before the Russians in turn decided to interfere in a civil war that was none of their business either.

    Now we seem to have the USA making a unilateral declaration that it will continue the conflict irrespective of what that toothless tiger, the UN, says on the matter and Russia responding that it will consider such a move as a war against Mother Russia and that it will in turn respond by attacking US warships and carriers.

    I would like to see the politicians of the Western Alliance, Turkey and Russia wind their necks back in and stop intervening in and prolonging every conflict which springs up in the world. I can think of only one such conflict where intervention just might have done some good, and I emphasise the word 'might' and that was in the Yugoslavia Wars.

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    So the East Ghouta Campaign comes to an end.
    Ultimately, all the major urban areas came to terms and agreed to either reconcile with the Government or be bused out to Idlib province. This means that none of the major population centers were stormed by Syrian Army Ground Forces.
    We were told at the onset that the East Ghouta had a civilian population of between four hundred thousand and half a million. It seems that about 30,000 will leave with the militants for Idlib, while over 180,000 have left the area for resettlement in Government controlled areas. So on that basis, at least another 200,000 seem to have stayed put.

    The main assault units of the Syrian army have already left the area and are reportedly heading south to Dara and Quinta rebel held areas along the borders of Israel and Jordan. Russia has confirmed that its aircraft will be taking part, which means it will get very interesting if the Israelis decide to get cute.

    Other developments today regard towns in the Ar-Rastan rebel held pocket in Hama province. Here a rolling number of largely neutral (read weathercock) towns are reconciling with the Syrian Government and handing over control to the Syria Army. It started with three this morning and had increased to six by early afternoon. This could snowball during the rest of today.

    The one thing, where silence is surprising in the Western media however, was the death of SAS Sergeant Matt Tonroe, who was killed alongside a US serviceman with several others wounded by an IED near Manbij on March 29th.
    Manbij is Turkeys next declared target for the Turkish army and its FSA proxies, in Turkey's campaign against the Kurds in Syria. This of course means that it is UK supported militants that most likely planted the bomb, assuming it was not of course special forces from our NATO ally itself.

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