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    El País publishes an article suggesting that all the recent inconvenient voting, including Cataluña and Brexit is down to the Russians.
    https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/11/09...97_816819.html
    I'm not quite sure how they came to this conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I'm not quite sure how they came to this conclusion.
    Thankfully, although security agencies have suspected Russia of giving support to separatist movements for some time, a side effect of the various investigations into their meddling in the U.S Election has been that evidence is beginning to emerge.

    It's obviously in Mr Putin's interest to see a weaker, disunited EU, NATO, etc.

    A couple of weeks ago, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow presented a fascinating report on this very subject (worth watching).



    This is a pretty good rundown of what may be going on, too:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/w...ements-n614196

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    The Catalan political prisoners are probably incarcerated to prevent them standing for election.( I assume those facing charges may not stand for election) their replacements may be more virulent in their demands which may alienate moderate Catalan voters, thus Rajoy wins. If there is a violent campaign then Rajoy wins as he can justify police brutality from the GC.
    Whatever happens, Catalonia will be damaged and its people subjugated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertcornercrew View Post
    The Catalan political prisoners are probably incarcerated to prevent them standing for election.( I assume those facing charges may not stand for election) their replacements may be more virulent in their demands which may alienate moderate Catalan voters, thus Rajoy wins. If there is a violent campaign then Rajoy wins as he can justify police brutality from the GC.
    Whatever happens, Catalonia will be damaged and its people subjugated.
    If the reports are to be believed the non-violent political prisoners were handcuffed behind their backs, two were stripped naked, and they loudly played the Spanish national anthem in the police van on the way to prison. Sounds like a fascist state to me.

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    The heirs of Franco?

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    Massive protest in Barcelona today. According to police there were 750,00 people there.
    http://catalannews.com/society-scien...ical-prisoners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    El País publishes an article suggesting that all the recent inconvenient voting, including Cataluña and Brexit is down to the Russians.
    https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/11/09...97_816819.html
    I'm not quite sure how they came to this conclusion.
    Like most things when they go bottoms up Barry,a scapegoat is needed.
    17,410,742 people said LEAVE!

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    Alex Salmond interviews Carlos Piegdemont https://youtu.be/Wd4x_7ctOlI (from 13:30). Puigdemont gets his say on the Catalan issue. Well done Alex in giving us the chance to hear this man's side of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morayloon View Post
    Alex Salmond interviews Carlos Piegdemont https://youtu.be/Wd4x_7ctOlI (from 13:30). Puigdemont gets his say on the Catalan issue. Well done Alex in giving us the chance to hear this man's side of the story.
    Now you see,the EU has been telling you all they will be a kinder master to the Scots than the UK would be,yet the rest of the UK has done its utmost to prove we are friends not the enemy,we have told you all along what the EU is doing,but you never believed a word of it.
    17,410,742 people said LEAVE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by morayloon View Post
    Well done Alex in giving us the chance to hear this man's side of the story.
    It's not as though anyone was ignoring Snr Piegdemont - he's been interviewed many times on the BBC, ITN, CNN, TF1...

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