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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    If DaveUK was still on the forum, he would be having some input here. He said that when he was studying theology, nobody believed the Bible.
    I'd forgotten him.

    And I think DaveUK might have had a point

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...s-1392030.html
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    I've been doing some research on these homosexuals in the church. They have broken the rules, as per the agreement set out in the Lambeth 98 conference. Now an organisation called GAFCON, set up to deal with these sinners, has published a list of them, and what they have done wrong. Some complain they now get hate mail. Well they should have thought about it a bit harder at the time, and either packed their sinning in or resign from the church. They did neither, but took advantage of the lax disciplinary procedures in the church. Normally the church doesn't even need these procedures, but as it is now they are under attack by politicians, of whom many are homosexual or at least don't see anything wrong with it, and wish to order the church around, dictating what it is allowed to believe.
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    Baron, the CoE have shown no discernment of scripture in today's decision. They are simply moving in line with secular thought.
    We will end up with a C of E which is very split on this issue. Peter Tatchell must be very pleased with his efforts to divide the church on this issue.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38982013
    A new report will be drafted.

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    Oh dear, one Bishop was confused about which way he was voting!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994125
    You can't get the staff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Oh dear, one Bishop was confused about which way he was voting!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994125
    You can't get the staff...
    Not the first bishop to find his staff resting in the wrong niche, I'm thinking...
    The poster reserves the right to amend or completely change any opinions he has posted at any time meanwhile, still waiting for the whip hand that Enoch forecast...

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    Politicians interfering in religion is ridiculous. Because if what the bible, or any religious book is true, then we shall all be judged when we die.

    The devil must be one hell of a busy man.

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    I do not and have never associated the church with anti homosexuality.

    It is my firm belief that over the centuries, the cloisters have provided refuge for countless gays and indeed homosexuality amongst the clergy has been commonplace through out my life.


    I think the key problem for the Anglican diocese is that so many of it's adherents are African. And typically they hate homo's. Kill them.
    So the church cannot openly promote homosexuality because for most of it's flock, that is an abhorrence. They would simply leave the diocese and form their own religion and then carry on publicly executing gays. In the end the church has more sensibilities to worry about than just the people of this island.

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    Two of the three houses passed it, but it failed at the House of Clergy (100 votes to 93). That's very close, so redrafting it after seeing what they are worried about should do it. Note the House of Clergy consists of the miscellaneous non-bishop clergy, which includes those from universities apparently. The culture in a typical university is very leftwing and pro-homosexuals, feminists, Islamic extremists and so on. This is probably why it failed, but Gafcon are doing a great job.

    This is Dr Mike Ovey, who was the principle of a London theological college before he died last month (very sad), but he has put across some very interesting arguments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbiPzVO0pZI

    He also spoke at Gafcon about cheap grace. Gafcon considered it a model argument. Anyhow he is talking to Cambridge students in the link. It's great to see Cambridge give the man an opportunity to speak.
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    A sad lamentation from my wife's gay man-friend who had a steady relationship with a homo vicar and arrived at the doorstep . Bluntly told to depart and begone , vicar had new lover man. So the friend just goes to hymn singing with the old biddies. sigh.

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    Even Disney is now to introduce a gay character

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...and-love-scene

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