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    Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    What is it with Left that they seem to be on this one way mission to deride & destroy anything & anyone Left of Tony Benn?

    I know the glorious & illustrious New Labour project of the past 13 years should have shown us all that the 90% of the then cabinet who were once proud to call themselves Socialists knew ALL about running a successful & happy country, but the pile of 50 notes 6700 miles high which now makes up our national debt might indicate otherwise.

    Anyhow David Cameron called it right on Libya & unlike Blair launched a brief & highly successful war which removed a tyrant & gave a lot of people true freedom & happiness for the first time in their lives. Do we hear that much about it? Not at all! Loads about a load of "Toff spawn" playing at being reactionary poor in tents in a graveyard at St Paul's but Libya - Nah!

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    Re: Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    I don't really understand what your point is.
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    Re: Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pup100 View Post
    Anyhow David Cameron called it right on Libya & unlike Blair launched a brief & highly successful war
    I would give it a lot more time before I would call it successful. Cameron did not launch a war, he and others assisted a revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacquesMagique View Post
    I don't really understand what your point is.
    Cameron put his neck on the line over Libya & you lot would have been shaking with rage in yer tents if it had all gone Pete Tong.

    It didn't go Pete Tong & it looks as if the people of Libya are on their way to getting the government they deserve & yet the Left have not been singularly gracious enough to admit that!

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    Re: Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pup100 View Post
    Cameron put his neck on the line over Libya
    Rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankou View Post
    I would give it a lot more time before I would call it successful. Cameron did not launch a war, he and others assisted a revolution.
    That still took political balls!

    If it was down to Gadaffi's mate Blair, the tyrant would have simply been allowed pitch his tent up at St Pauls for hand shaking photo oppertunities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankou View Post
    Rubbish.
    What you are going against the Internationaly recognised fact that he allowed British forces to be deployed in assisting the rebels to rid themselves of this dictator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup100 View Post
    That still took political balls!
    Pup I really wonder about you, I really do, I would wait a years or two and see what depth of mire Libya may still leave us in.

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    Re: Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pup100 View Post
    That still took political balls!

    If it was down to Gadaffi's mate Blair, the tyrant would have simply been allowed pitch his tent up at St Pauls for hand shaking photo oppertunities!
    So you admire Cameron for going to war and showing courage but condemn Blair for exactly the same thing?

    Secondly the Labour party administered the longest period of Economic growth this country has ever seen. Think the longest the Tory's have ever gone without a crash is 7 years, where as Labour we managed 11 years of sustained economic growth. So who missmanaged the economy now? It is all very well and good saying Labour did this, but when yoiu actually break down the numbers into things like relative wage increases, life expectancy, economic growth etc, the Labour party comes out streets ahead every single time.
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    Re: Can't do right for doing wrong! Can't be Right wing for being wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pup100 View Post
    Cameron put his neck on the line over Libya...
    Not really. No serious British troop involvement was ever envisaged, so the chances of casualties were minimal, and of troops getting bogged down, non-existent. Libya was never going to be another Iraq or Afghanistan for us. And I myself am on record as supporting the Libyan intervention insofar as it went, though I strongly opposed the Iraq invasion and Afghanistan intervention. If those on the left, such as I, as well as those on the right, supported the Libyan intervention, then Cameron was taking very little political risk, but rather courting popularity.

    Where Cameron IS putting his political neck on the line is over the dog's breakfast that is Lansley's health "reforms". I predict an awful mess resulting from their implementation, which will likely do him enormous political damage.

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