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    Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    If this is true then the Coalition need to work hard and quickly to explain what they are planning.

    Of course the Labour party and other detractors love to put this view forward with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Clearly the public who know no better may be believing this view.

    Most think cuts hit poor 'hardest' - Yahoo! News UK

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Okay, this sort of thing bugs me.

    It is blatantly obvious that when you cut the public sector, the poorer will be worse off in the short term. However, if done correctly, people can do well without the need for many public services. My only problem with this coalition and its cuts is 1/ Its cutting defence which is just no 2/ there aren't plans for massive reform, excluding a stupid NHS white paper and welfare... it ignores other budgets entirely.

    But what annoys me is this term progressive and regressive... ohh those are annoying terms. If I were Prime Minister and had a plan to make EVERYONE better off, whilst severely devastating the welfare budget and instituting a flat rate tax, my plans would be deemed regressive even though people are better off. Progressive and regressive are left wing terms designed to support an increase in state spending; nothing more.
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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Hi,

    Cuts! What Cuts?

    this is smoke & mirrors - So far only removal of planned expenditure expansion under Labour has been cut!

    Do note The FT stated March 26 2009:
    "The Government is set to borrow more in the next two years than the total borrowing Labour inherited in 1997, dating back to 1691,'

    Thus by not borrowing 1/2 of that the Tories can make huge savings!

    The total genuine savings made so far do not save adequate to pay the interest on Labour borrowings in their last 13 unlucky months of their 13 unlucky years with their economic illiteracy and their political treachery and betrayal of Britain.

    When it comes to cuts - you ain't seen nothing yet!

    Leaving The EU will save us over 50Million a day and dismantling the idiocy promoted by Common Purpose to Communise EU Regions with devolution will save a further 60Million.

    Labour sold off more Nationalised assets to fund their criminal incompetence in each year of their misrule than has ever taken place in peacetime in the history of these United Kingdoms.

    They also created a Kleptocratic QUANGOcracy of pure parasites made up of cronies and the unemployable.

    Cuts - you ain't seen nothing yet.

    Famine is a VERY real possibility if we remain in The EU - though Britain is currently the 7th. largest manufacturer in the world and in the last 6 months have shown growth larger than any of the preceding 15 years - with EU payments and imposition of the incompetent nonsense of CAP & CAP and idiotic over regulation driving jobs abroad to suit the lunatic values of The EU we WILL go bankrupt even if we stay out of the catastrophic EUro!

    Do bear in mind that due to signing the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty QMV (Qualified Majority Voting) by other EU countries can impose The EUro on Britain without us having any valid say!

    Do not blame The EU as they openly stated they intended to destroy Britain and made it clear they would merely bribe our own Politicians and Civil Servants - as they did as they have!

    YOU have been betrayed by The Enemy Within - It used to be called Treason and we hanged them!

    I wish YOU ALL good luck and hope you survive with dignity and integrity intact Few Will!!!

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    If this is true then the Coalition need to work hard and quickly to explain what they are planning.

    Of course the Labour party and other detractors love to put this view forward with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Clearly the public who know no better may be believing this view.

    Most think cuts hit poor 'hardest' - Yahoo! News UK

    Of course this is and will be true.

    It's a given.

    I would only be surprised that people are surprised.

    After all, it is the Tory way to make cuts which hit the most vulnerable, the hardest.

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    Of course this is and will be true.

    It's a given.

    I would only be surprised that people are surprised.

    After all, it is the Tory way to make cuts which hit the most vulnerable, the hardest.
    The cuts are going to affect everyone, but if you're struggling to live on say 250 a week and you lose 10%, it will obviously have a greater impact that if you have an income of 2,500 a week and lose the same 10%; that'll just mean you put less away. Any responsible government has to apply financial constraints equally across the board though, to try to differentiate it by requiring that those earning more have to pay more is not only grossly unfair but will inevitably result in those at the top end of the income scale leaving the country, causing greater problems further down the line.

    I'd also like to reiterate an important point Greg has made; many of these so-called 'cuts' are simply a reigning in of the previous Labour government's planned increases; if you were spending a billion, that increases to 1.2 billion under one administration, then gets reduced by 10% by the next administration, is it a real cut or not? It depends on where you draw your baseline.
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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    Of course this is and will be true.

    It's a given.

    I would only be surprised that people are surprised.

    After all, it is the Tory way to make cuts which hit the most vulnerable, the hardest.
    Abject nonsense and scare mongering.

    The real truth is that the Tories support business, as succesful industries generate jobs and income so that we can AFFORD to look after the genuine poor.

    Labour demonstrated in the last 13 years that they borrowed irresponsibly to pay inflated sums to many who had no intention of ever seeking work. I for one will be glad if that ceases now.

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Abject nonsense and scare mongering.

    The real truth is that the Tories support business, as succesful industries generate jobs and income so that we can AFFORD to look after the genuine poor.

    Labour demonstrated in the last 13 years that they borrowed irresponsibly to pay inflated sums to many who had no intention of ever seeking work. I for one will be glad if that ceases now.
    We know that the tories support business. As for the genuine poor? Thing is, you often have to walk a mile in a man's shoes to understand their circumstance. This public schoolboy House of Parliament isn't fit for business frankly. A few working class types do make it there sometimes, only to become the laughing stock (guffawing would be more accurate) of the gentry.

    I have absolutely no faith in the tories (the libs are invisible except for furious nodding at PMQs) to make anything resembling a decent decision, on anything. This housing benefit fiasco says it all. Not one of them have really thought of the impact on families.

    There are loads of people Lord Gaga knows through his job who cannot read or write. How can you apply for a job when you can't write. I know you will laugh it off as irrelevant, but it is more prominent than you would imagine. What successful industry will employ someone who cannot read or write? It's not all about the norm - life is a very varied thing.

    Unemployment is generational now - that's what we need to sort out. Children won't aspire to a great career in one of your successful industries if neither parent has ever worked. Those people are genuinely poor, they may be on benefit but will never be rich enough to aspire.

    Yours (so far as I've read) seems to be a very narrow logic with little real thinking going on. This is a very tory trait though! It's probably a generational thing!

    One last thing - what if your industries didn't generate the jobs - would that mean we would not "AFFORD to look after the genuine poor"?

    Yours, etc, etc

    Lady G

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Abject nonsense and scare mongering..
    What use is there in inviting comment if all you then wanted to do was dismiss anyone that did not see it your way, as speaking 'abject nonsense'.

    Of course the cuts will hit the poorest, most of all.

    Man loses his job, who lives in Burnley v millionaire in Kensington.

    When cuts are made, which of those two do you think might just suffer more..?

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    The cuts are going to affect everyone, but if you're struggling to live on say 250 a week and you lose 10%, it will obviously have a greater impact that if you have an income of 2,500 a week and lose the same 10%
    That's what I'm saying.

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    Re: Most think 'cuts' hit poor hardest

    Sirs,

    What do you think about setting up a Tory Education charity? I'm a bit of a whizz at baking - and could easily see me setting up a profitable cake and candy stall. Any profits would obviously go to helping needy Tories suffer the challenges of every day life that the rest of us have to suffer. I could lop off a limb, or (maybe more importantly) lop a few 's off a few offshore bank accounts for the price of a fairy cake (with butter icing).

    Yours, etc etc

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