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    Geert Wilders goes on trial

    Geert Wilders, the far-right Dutch leader, went on trial today charged with inciting racial hatred.
    Prosecutors say Wilders, a key figure in a new coalition poised to take power in the Netherlands, provoked hatred against Muslims with remarks comparing Islam to nazism and by calling for a ban on the Qur'an. Wilders argues he has a right to freedom of speech. If convicted, he faces up to a year in prison...

    Geert Wilders trial for inciting racial hatred opens in Netherlands | World news | guardian.co.uk

    With Europe on alert for a 'Mumbai' style terror attack by muslim extremists, you can understand where Geert Wilders is coming from. The world would be a much better place if the people who have a 'Faith' or Lifestyle', celebrated that with fellow travellers, instead of trying to impose their 'beliefs/views' on others, who frankly do not care one way or another. Indeed the 'others' might hold opposite views, as is their right! If I were to go to, say, Saudi Arabia, I would understand that I cannot drink whisky in public, nor kiss my wife, nor import a Bible nor apply for permission to build a Christian Church. Their laws, their country. Conversely, a Saudi citizen could enter a Western Nation and do all of the above and build a Mosque to boot. Under western laws, it is his right to do so. Under Sharia law it is all forbidden on pain of severe penalties.
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    I do have to agree with a great deal of that; the whole situation relating to Islamic immigration into the West is exceedingly one sided. We bend over backward to accommodate their religious and cultural beliefs to the point of providing protection for them even when it's sometimes in conflict with our own laws, and the more we do this, the more they both demand and expect. However as Nicholas rightly points out, if we were to go and try to do the same in any Muslim country, we'd either be in jail or deported, or both.

    Geert Wilders is only saying out loud what the majority of people are thinking in private but are too often too frightened to admit in public. From what I've read of his speeches I personally wouldn't say they're racist; since when has telling the facts as they are, unpalatable as they might be to the wishy-washy liberal brigade, been that? He's quite right in saying that he has a right to free speech; I thought that was what democracy was supposed to be about.
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    I always thought that incitement to racial hatred was something like; "We should kill all the Muslims" not giving legitimate comparisons to other things. For example his labelling them of 'fascist' is completely normal, I would disagree with him, but I would not consider it offensive, merely a comment on the running of their societies in such a restrictive nature. Furthermore his Koran to Mein Kampf reference appeared to simply be in passing, and a reference to Winston Churchill making the same comment in reverse.

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    Geert Wilders 'Hate Crimes' Trial Later this Year...

    Will this prosecution in the Netherlands later this year be seen as a 'Political Trial' by many... possibly a 'Show Trial' ordered up by the Stazi-fied Kommie Kommizzars putting pressure on the Dutch Authorities to make Mr Wilders and example of what the EU-SSR (Herein called EU-rineland) that any oppositions to EU-rineland law, will be met by said Kommie Kommizzars, and will be dealt with by severe punishments....

    Darn it...that means I'm off Mr Rumpouy-Pompuy's Xmas card List this year....
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    Re: Geert Wilders 'Hate Crimes' Trial Later this Year...

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVanya View Post
    Darn it...that means I'm off Mr Rumpouy-Pompuy's Xmas card List this year....
    Hi,

    I think not - firstly he will be using YOUR money to send it.

    Secondly it is not unheard of that in a Gulag the cost of execution is a direct debt of the next of kin.

    When more people wish out than in it is a prison.

    When the prison is run as a profit center by inept politicians it is called a Gulag.

    Now we have the prisons run for profit they are Gulag enterprise zones and be minded that Labour spent over 5 million PAYING prisoners for their loss of free bed and food when early released - I kid you not!!

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    Re: Geert Wilders 'Hate Crimes' Trial Later this Year...

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVanya View Post
    Will this prosecution in the Netherlands later this year be seen as a 'Political Trial' by many... possibly a 'Show Trial' ordered up by the Stazi-fied Kommie Kommizzars putting pressure on the Dutch Authorities to make Mr Wilders and example of what the EU-SSR (Herein called EU-rineland) that any oppositions to EU-rineland law, will be met by said Kommie Kommizzars, and will be dealt with by severe punishments....
    Hi,

    it is not unusual in a gulag to expect the central unelected and unaccountable creeps to orchestrate show trials at short notice precluding briefing of Barrister and legal team and less reciprocity than one might enjoy in a civilised land.

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    Re: Geert Wilders 'Hate Crimes' Trial Later this Year...

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVanya View Post
    Will this prosecution in the Netherlands later this year be seen as a 'Political Trial' by many... possibly a 'Show Trial' ordered up by the Stazi-fied Kommie Kommizzars putting pressure on the Dutch Authorities to make Mr Wilders and example of what the EU-SSR (Herein called EU-rineland) that any oppositions to EU-rineland law, will be met by said Kommie Kommizzars, and will be dealt with by severe punishments....
    Hi,

    it is not unusual in a gulag to expect the central unelected and unaccountable creeps to orchestrate show trials at short notice precluding briefing of Barrister and legal team and less reciprocity than one might enjoy in a civilised land.

    In a Gulag much of what is done is for effect the balance to 'encourage' the others!!

    A measure of a Gulag is does it consider your thoughts to be public property and thus punishable!

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    Greg_L-W.

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