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    Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    Not before time is my reaction. For the last 13 years, teachers have found controlling pupils becoming more and more difficult, not least because of pathetic human rights legislation.

    The Coalition seem destined to end that situation:-

    Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline | Politics | The Guardian

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    Re: Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Not before time is my reaction. For the last 13 years, teachers have found controlling pupils becoming more and more difficult, not least because of pathetic human rights legislation.

    The Coalition seem destined to end that situation:-

    Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline | Politics | The Guardian
    As you say, not before time! For several years I lived with the head of a large inner city J&I school, and I heard from her on almost a daily basis about the many problems that the increasing amount of government bureaucracy, in particular health and safety and human rights legislation, caused in relation to the way that teachers were able to carry out their jobs. I know we've got at least two active members here who work in a school environment and I'm sure they'll also be able to cite many examples of the difficulties this can cause. Few will mourn the passing of this.

    What I find completely at odds with the way that the coalition government is rolling back at least the worst aspects of health and safety and human rights legislation is the way that Harriet Harman's Equality Act has been approved into law as of yesterday with virtually no changes being made; this is going to cause huge problems in the workplace and has already drawn a hail of criticism from industry and commerce, but that's a different topic.
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    Re: Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    As you say, not before time! For several years I lived with the head of a large inner city J&I school, and I heard from her on almost a daily basis about the many problems that the increasing amount of government bureaucracy, in particular health and safety and human rights legislation, caused in relation to the way that teachers were able to carry out their jobs. I know we've got at least two active members here who work in a school environment and I'm sure they'll also be able to cite many examples of the difficulties this can cause. Few will mourn the passing of this.

    What I find completely at odds with the way that the coalition government is rolling back at least the worst aspects of health and safety and human rights legislation is the way that Harriet Harman's Equality Act has been approved into law as of yesterday with virtually no changes being made; this is going to cause huge problems in the workplace and has already drawn a hail of criticism from industry and commerce, but that's a different topic.
    I totally agree.
    I have already created a thread on the latter subject, which I expect to receive heavy criticism and hence posts.
    Harriet Harperson started out as a very talented lawyer and politician but seems to have strayed from the straight and narrow!

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    Re: Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    I totally agree.
    I have already created a thread on the latter subject, which I expect to receive heavy criticism and hence posts.
    Harriet Harperson started out as a very talented lawyer and politician but seems to have strayed from the straight and narrow!
    The link is here if anyone wants to add their views and comments.
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    Re: Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    I can relate to the problems teachers face. My mother was a teaching assistant in a local secondary for several years and the situation is completely ridiculous. Until very recently, whenever a case was brought against a teacher by a student on the grounds of violence or sexual molestation it was general practice to assume teachers were guilty before proven innocent and such accusations went on a teacher's permanent record, whether they were found to be true or not. I have heard of several teachers who have careers ruined because of false accusations because all the power these days is with the student. It's nice to see the Conservatives seem to have a great deal more common sense than Labour (in the case of education at least).

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    Re: Michael Gove promises 'new deal' for teachers on classroom discipline

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak 'fruitbat' Armstrong View Post
    I can relate to the problems teachers face. My mother was a teaching assistant in a local secondary for several years and the situation is completely ridiculous. Until very recently, whenever a case was brought against a teacher by a student on the grounds of violence or sexual molestation it was general practice to assume teachers were guilty before proven innocent and such accusations went on a teacher's permanent record, whether they were found to be true or not. I have heard of several teachers who have careers ruined because of false accusations because all the power these days is with the student. It's nice to see the Conservatives seem to have a great deal more common sense than Labour (in the case of education at least).
    How right you are; it has been humiliating for me as a school governor to watch as good teachers were utterly destroyed by baseless charges under the present system. It must be changed.

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