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    Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    That is a headline on the BBC news website; am I alone in questioning why this statement has been issued by the Home Office?

    BBC News - Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    An attack was a strong possibility it reads. Why? Who in Ireland considers the average Brit someone to harm and why?

    I am at a loss to answer my own question.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    That is a headline on the BBC news website; am I alone in questioning why this statement has been issued by the Home Office?

    BBC News - Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    An attack was a strong possibility it reads. Why? Who in Ireland considers the average Brit someone to harm and why?

    I am at a loss to answer my own question.
    Isn't the whole intent of any politically motivated terrorist group to cause random terror in the hope that the general public will pressure the government into giving them what they demand - in this case the return of the rule of Northern Ireland from the UK to Eire?

    From reading in the article "Judgements are based on a broad range of factors, including the intent and capabilities of terrorist groups" and "there had been a "persistent rise" in activity and ambition by dissidents in Northern Ireland over the past three years" it would seem that intelligence reports do show that at least some Irish think this is the only way to 'progress' their claim. Like you, I'm also at a loss to understand why they think they stand any better chance of succeeding now given the past record of the far better equipped and funded IRA, but it seems that the thought patterns of many who have a passionate belief in 'a cause' isn't logical at all.

    I can't help but point out to the theists here that this is yet another example of the damage that religion does in society, as the Irish problem is almost exclusively between Catholics and Protestants.
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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    I think they probably just want to draw attention to their cause. A lot of people, certainly in my generation especially, are unaware of the situation.

    Sinn Fein's claim that they can achieve a united Ireland through parliamentary seems like utter rubbish. So those who still seek that are looking for another way to draw attention to their goal.

    Even if sinn fein were succesful, there would still be a major protestant "British" element to Northern Ireland, still posing more trouble. It's a very difficult situation to know what to do with, it's not unlike the Palestine/Israel issue I guess.
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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    That is a headline on the BBC news website; am I alone in questioning why this statement has been issued by the Home Office?

    BBC News - Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    An attack was a strong possibility it reads. Why? Who in Ireland considers the average Brit someone to harm and why?

    I am at a loss to answer my own question.
    As usual with terrorists it's a small group (in comparison to the society they exist within) who want their own way and can't get it through support of popular opinion at the ballot box so they have to resort to violence or it's just a group of violent criminals who want to justify their drug dealing and other activities with the veneer of the freedom fighter.
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    What you say is true Midas, how could an army with less resources than in previous campaigns hope for military victory....but I think you'll find military victory isn't on the agenda. The strategy of the current insurgency is to put an end to the British goals of normalisation and ulsterisation. Irish republicans were dealt a serious blow by the British through mi5 infiltration and the use of proxy terror through Loyalist groups leading to a ceasation of hostilities and the eventual surrendering of weapons and recognition of British institutions in Ireland by the republican leadership. That puts the current resistence at a much lower footing than in previous decades. The situation in north east Ireland involves a gross breach of Irish soverignty by imperial Britain and the British estabishment knows this...hence their public goal of normalisation. So by highlighting the fact that there is nothing normal about occupying another country's territory there does seem to be some logic to this "cause".

    On the religious issue. There is no doubt that it has played a role in the terrible situation the north east finds itself in. But this is no theological conflict. Irish republicanism was founded by Protestant separitists and has its roots in secularism. The current groups, both violent and non-violent, have very little if anything to do with Catholicism and more to do with Marxism and anti-imperialism. Amazingly only a few miles from the border with Derry in Co. Donegal, Protestants and Catholics live peacefully side by side with even the yearly Orange parade thrown into the mix. But a malevolent influence from the British establishment has helped to stoke up fear and resentment in the Six Counties as they pitched two communities against each other for selfish gain...the ol' divide and conquer trick.

    Religion has a lot to answer for but British strategy in Ireland has even more explaining to do. The Irish problem is Britain.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    What you say is true Midas, how could an army with less resources than in previous campaigns hope for military victory....but I think you'll find military victory isn't on the agenda. The strategy of the current insurgency is to put an end to the British goals of normalisation and ulsterisation. Irish republicans were dealt a serious blow by the British through mi5 infiltration and the use of proxy terror through Loyalist groups leading to a ceasation of hostilities and the eventual surrendering of weapons and recognition of British institutions in Ireland by the republican leadership. That puts the current resistence at a much lower footing than in previous decades. The situation in north east Ireland involves a gross breach of Irish soverignty by imperial Britain and the British estabishment knows this...hence their public goal of normalisation. So by highlighting the fact that there is nothing normal about occupying another country's territory there does seem to be some logic to this "cause".

    On the religious issue. There is no doubt that it has played a role in the terrible situation the north east finds itself in. But this is no theological conflict. Irish republicanism was founded by Protestant separitists and has its roots in secularism. The current groups, both violent and non-violent, have very little if anything to do with Catholicism and more to do with Marxism and anti-imperialism. Amazingly only a few miles from the border with Derry in Co. Donegal, Protestants and Catholics live peacefully side by side with even the yearly Orange parade thrown into the mix. But a malevolent influence from the British establishment has helped to stoke up fear and resentment in the Six Counties as they pitched two communities against each other for selfish gain...the ol' divide and conquer trick.

    Religion has a lot to answer for but British strategy in Ireland has even more explaining to do. The Irish problem is Britain.
    What a load of ill-informed male genitals. If I did not know better (which I don't) I would be inclined to think that your sympathetic to the cause of the Continuity IRA, a small bunch (about 50) misfits who think they can take up the cause that the Provisional IRA gave up on almost a decade ago. These fools do not realise that they will not only be fighting the British establishment as you call it, but the people (Catholic and Proddy) of Ulster, including the former members of the Provo's who have made a commitment to the peace process.

    I think that before you post on the history of the Irish issue, you look at the full and unbiased history of the island, I would also strongly suggest you refrain from insulting people who have firm beliefs by calling them Marxists and saying their religion has no basis in this...poppycock!!
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    bet this gets edited. Take care all the decent people here. have fun.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Franklin View Post
    What a load of ill-informed male genitals. If I did not know better (which I don't) I would be inclined to think that your sympathetic to the cause of the Continuity IRA, a small bunch (about 50) misfits who think they can take up the cause that the Provisional IRA gave up on almost a decade ago. These fools do not realise that they will not only be fighting the British establishment as you call it, but the people (Catholic and Proddy) of Ulster, including the former members of the Provo's who have made a commitment to the peace process.

    I think that before you post on the history of the Irish issue, you look at the full and unbiased history of the island, I would also strongly suggest you refrain from insulting people who have firm beliefs by calling them Marxists and saying their religion has no basis in this...poppycock!!
    Poppycock....Lord Haw Haw, is it yourself that's in it?!

    I think you'll find that it is Óglaigh na hÉireann that mi5 are refering to....the organisation that a lot of former Provos are more than likely involved with. CIRA and RSF are antiques at best. Doesn't matter what former Provo members support....they are now master or should I say puppets of British rule in Ireland.

    Look at the republican organisations at present...éirigi, 32 County Sovereignty Movement and independent republican groups in Tyrone...all are left wing and are as critical of the Catholic church as they are of other aspects of imperialism. Britain is an aggressive imperial state that has been war mongering in nearly every decade since the begining of the 20th century...in both discrete and not so indiscrete conflicts. The "peace process" is a British strategy to deny Irish people full sovereignty of their nation and to copperfasten the Union. Britain continually denies democratic process to the people of Ireland through the continued partition of the country which gives a minority of Irish people (Unionists) veto over full Irish independence from the crown.

    The people of the Six Counties of Ulster have been fed horsesh1te from their political leaders. Especially nationalists....who have been told that somehow the GFA is going to lead to independence.

    I suggest you read up on British geopolitical strategy in Ireland before you come galloping in on your mare.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    Poppycock....Lord Haw Haw, is it yourself that's in it?!

    I think you'll find that it is Óglaigh na hÉireann that mi5 are refering to....the organisation that a lot of former Provos are more than likely involved with. CIRA and RSF are antiques at best. Doesn't matter what former Provo members support....they are now master or should I say puppets of British rule in Ireland.

    Look at the republican organisations at present...éirigi, 32 County Sovereignty Movement and independent republican groups in Tyrone...all are left wing and are as critical of the Catholic church as they are of other aspects of imperialism. Britain is an aggressive imperial state that has been war mongering in nearly every decade since the begining of the 20th century...in both discrete and not so indiscrete conflicts. The "peace process" is a British strategy to deny Irish people full sovereignty of their nation and to copperfasten the Union. Britain continually denies democratic process to the people of Ireland through the continued partition of the country which gives a minority of Irish people (Unionists) veto over full Irish independence from the crown.

    The people of the Six Counties of Ulster have been fed horsesh1te from their political leaders. Especially nationalists....who have been told that somehow the GFA is going to lead to independence.

    I suggest you read up on British geopolitical strategy in Ireland before you come galloping in on your mare.
    So says the Terrorist sympathiser..
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    bet this gets edited. Take care all the decent people here. have fun.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    I realy hope not,not only for the people that will be injured and killed but for the Irish people, they deserve a lot more than having scum once again in their midst.

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    Re: Irish terror attack a 'strong possibility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Franklin View Post
    So says the Terrorist sympathiser..
    No, I have never sympathized with British terror in Ireland or in any of the many other places across the globe where Olivers Army has done its bidding for Crown and country.

    British geopolitical interests in Ireland are alive and well. Take a look at mi5's back-up centre for its London headquarters near Belfast. Built in recent years to the tune of 20 million pounds and much bigger than any of the other 8 regional facilities in the UK.
    MI5 agents have been exposed at different levels in the Irish civil service.
    Advice from military heads in the the Ministry for Defence consistently said between the two world wars that full Irish independence would be a mistake for Britains strategic interests.
    Don't try to tell me that Britian is a mere benign peacekeeper in Ireland desperately trying to find a solution to the tribal war of the cursed Irish.

    Read about the exploits of Robert Nairac and Co during the recent Troubles and see the lengths Britain's dirty war went to...further inflamming sectarian hatred and division.

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