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    Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    We all knew it would happen, but I didn't expect it to occur so quickly, nor on this scale.

    There must surely be a way out of this dilemma but I cannot see it at first glance today. Anyone any ideas?

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    Re: Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    We all knew it would happen, but I didn't expect it to occur so quickly, nor on this scale.

    There must surely be a way out of this dilemma but I cannot see it at first glance today. Anyone any ideas?

    Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain | Reuters
    This is something which is quite alarming and has the potential for some long term repercussions in many sectors of British industry, reducing our international competitiveness even further than it is currently, and such across the board cuts by the government are, in this instance, wrong. The only way I can see that the situation can be rectified is for funding to actually be increased, perhaps with the help of more commercial sponsorship, in those areas of science and technology which have been under-funded for far too long. To a large degree this cost could be covered at the expense of payments to other universities, many of them former polytechnics, which offer degrees which are nigh on useless in the real world of work. - and often give second rate students false hope that they can get decent jobs because of them.
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    Re: Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    This is something which is quite alarming and has the potential for some long term repercussions in many sectors of British industry, reducing our international competitiveness even further than it is currently, and such across the board cuts by the government are, in this instance, wrong. The only way I can see that the situation can be rectified is for funding to actually be increased, perhaps with the help of more commercial sponsorship, in those areas of science and technology which have been under-funded for far too long. To a large degree this cost could be covered at the expense of payments to other universities, many of them former polytechnics, which offer degrees which are nigh on useless in the real world of work. - and often give second rate students false hope that they can get decent jobs because of them.
    Is the risk of brain drain a classic instance where the Coalition needs to continue expenditure? It certainly follows the principle of 'invest in the future', and investing in scientific research sounds something I might decide to invest in. How do we measure the success or otherwise of such schemes?
    I agree with Midas lets return to the era of polytechnics and encourage commercial sponsorship to the top research universities perhaps by tax breaks for companies or individuals investing?

    Britain faces brain drain as cuts force top scientists to leave country | Science | The Guardian

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    Re: Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Is the risk of brain drain a classic instance where the Coalition needs to continue expenditure? It certainly follows the principle of 'invest in the future', and investing in scientific research sounds something I might decide to invest in. How do we measure the success or otherwise of such schemes?
    I agree with Midas lets return to the era of polytechnics and encourage commercial sponsorship to the top research universities perhaps by tax breaks for companies or individuals investing?

    Britain faces brain drain as cuts force top scientists to leave country | Science | The Guardian
    As far as I'm concerned this is a no-brainer! I wonder how much education, especially at secondary and tertiary level, something like the abolition of the outdated and unnecessary Trident programme would pay for? Not only that, but how much reduction in anti-social behaviour would money poured into education bring - effectively targeted money I should say? Expenditure on education is perhaps the single most important thing that any government can spend our tax money on, but sadly because of the short-termism that our present party political and governmental structure dictates, no-one is willing to look far enough ahead in order to invest for the benefits it'll bring a generation hence. All we're likely to see is a string of only partially effective patches being applied to try to repair the failing system we're stuck with.
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    Re: Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    The expected cuts to the countries science budget are very worrying. The industry has needed more funding and a larger role in our future for a very long time, to talk about cutting their funding by any amount is just ridiculous - even more so, when faced with the financial benefits that breakthroughs in certain projects would bring to the country.

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    Re: Britain threatened with scientific brain-drain

    Lord Krebs states that the "brain drain" will lead to scientists, "returning home or going elsewhere"

    Are we to assume then that we as a nation have "brain drained" other countries,strangeling their own development ? Is not the immigration of scientists,skilled workers and needed occupations not theft of another countries resources ?

    We give billions away in aid every year for the development of other countriies.Would we not be better off leaving their cleverest minds and skilled workers where they are to do there own developing and spend the money on educating our own "brains" and ramping up our skilled workforce ?

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