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    Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Yippee say I; what took them so long?

    They have been ridiculed since their inception and the army of people writing manuals and earning a fortune policing these regulations will hopefully be swept away!

    David Cameron plans to tear up 'mad' health and safety regulations | Mail Online

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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Good, hopefully this will end Britains love affair with compensation claims.
    Billy Murray will have to go back to playing villians instead of a lawyer...................
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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveUK View Post
    Good, hopefully this will end Britains love affair with compensation claims.
    Billy Murray will have to go back to playing villians instead of a lawyer...................
    Beat me too it with that one Dave! The compensation culture has done absolutely nothing to encourage personal responsibility either at home or at work, in fact in many cases I'm sure it's had the opposite effect judging by the estimated number of baseless claims that get 'settled', all of which just bump up the cost of insurance.

    One advert for health and safety compensation claims which really gets up my nose is the one where some guy's ladder slips when he's up it, and he wins his claim for however many thousand pounds because "it was the wrong type of ladder"! Idiot, either make sure you have the 'right' type of ladder and make sure it's fixed securely; if not, don't use it. Either way, your own stupidity is hardly your employer's responsibility. OK, there are some blatant abuses of common sense safety rules which need to be dealt with, but there are plenty of existing laws to deal with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    Beat me too it with that one Dave! The compensation culture has done absolutely nothing to encourage personal responsibility either at home or at work, in fact in many cases I'm sure it's had the opposite effect judging by the estimated number of baseless claims that get 'settled', all of which just bump up the cost of insurance.

    One advert for health and safety compensation claims which really gets up my nose is the one where some guy's ladder slips when he's up it, and he wins his claim for however many thousand pounds because "it was the wrong type of ladder"! Idiot, either make sure you have the 'right' type of ladder and make sure it's fixed securely; if not, don't use it. Either way, your own stupidity is hardly your employer's responsibility. OK, there are some blatant abuses of common sense safety rules which need to be dealt with, but there are plenty of existing laws to deal with those.
    I hope that following on the heels of this one will be repealing much of the human rights act; as the way it is applied here means anyone not born here enjoys more rights than the majority! How can that be so?

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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    Beat me too it with that one Dave! The compensation culture has done absolutely nothing to encourage personal responsibility either at home or at work, in fact in many cases I'm sure it's had the opposite effect judging by the estimated number of baseless claims that get 'settled', all of which just bump up the cost of insurance.

    One advert for health and safety compensation claims which really gets up my nose is the one where some guy's ladder slips when he's up it, and he wins his claim for however many thousand pounds because "it was the wrong type of ladder"! Idiot, either make sure you have the 'right' type of ladder and make sure it's fixed securely; if not, don't use it. Either way, your own stupidity is hardly your employer's responsibility. OK, there are some blatant abuses of common sense safety rules which need to be dealt with, but there are plenty of existing laws to deal with those.
    I have some expereinces of this issue, that illustrate very well how H&S can go way too far. I used to work for a building products manuacturing company. The levels of h&s were not great when I started there, it was like going back in time to the industrial revolution. The level of industrial accidents was relitively low, workers were very aware of the dangers and very vigilant. They spent a huge ammount of money on modernising H&S standards. Withing the 1st year there was a significant increase in work related accidents, mainly due to people taking less care and being less vigilant.

    With regard to compensation and injusry claims, I've seen first hand the knock on effect of it. If a company has to settle such a claim, the will invariably attempt to recoup the cost. They'll either do it through passing costs to customers, or by loosing employees.
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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Good news all round it seems ,maybe I will be able to get down to some work instead of spending half the day writing Method statements, and Risk assesments !

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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Yippee say I; what took them so long?

    They have been ridiculed since their inception and the army of people writing manuals and earning a fortune policing these regulations will hopefully be swept away!

    David Cameron plans to tear up 'mad' health and safety regulations | Mail Online
    Heh, that will probably be the next post they cut in our NHS trust then, Risk assessment officer.
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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Yippee say I; what took them so long?

    They have been ridiculed since their inception and the army of people writing manuals and earning a fortune policing these regulations will hopefully be swept away!

    David Cameron plans to tear up 'mad' health and safety regulations | Mail Online
    Lord Young remarked today that the regulations were not as arcane as the public and industry imagined. It just became the norm for town hall and industry leaders as well as school headteachers to follow one another in implementing tougher and tougher rules. There never were rules banning conkers unless wearing eye protectors for example.

    If that is true how long will it take for us all to revert to doing things the way we used to?

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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by manrow View Post
    Lord Young remarked today that the regulations were not as arcane as the public and industry imagined. It just became the norm for town hall and industry leaders as well as school headteachers to follow one another in implementing tougher and tougher rules. There never were rules banning conkers unless wearing eye protectors for example.

    If that is true how long will it take for us all to revert to doing things the way we used to?
    He also said it is important for the public at large to challenge councils, headteachers and others, who come up with ridiculous restrictions.

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    Re: Cameron plans to tear up 'elf 'n safety regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by manrow View Post
    He also said it is important for the public at large to challenge councils, headteachers and others, who come up with ridiculous restrictions.
    The problem with doing that for most people are threefold: they have an aversion to taking anything to court; they have a fear of standing up to 'the establishment; and they are fearful of the cost implications. If Lord Young is serious in what he said, I think he should make it much easier for people to make those challenges without having those concerns - and for it to be very obvious that making those challenges can be effective.
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