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    Almost all children now believe they go to school to pass exams. The idea that they may be there for an education is irrelevant. State schools have become exam factories, interested only in A to C Grades. They do not educate children. Exam results do not reflect a candidate’s innate ability. Employers have moaned for years that too many employees cannot read or write properly. According to a survey, school-leavers and even graduates lack basic literacy and numeracy skills. More and more companies are having to provide remedial training to new staff, who can’t write clear instructions, do simple maths, or solve problems. Both graduates and school-leavers were also criticised for their sloppy time-keeping, ignorance of basic customer service and lack of self-discipline.

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children. Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.

    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt out” from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.

    There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.

    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

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    Re: Free Our Schools

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    Iftikhar, it must be obvious to you from the response you inevitably get when you post this type of material here, that no-one here, and very few indigenous British citizens generally, want Islamic schools. I have no idea whether you saw the recent TV documentary called "Faith School Menace" or not, however the title alone, regardless of some of the alarming things which which were highlighted and which are happening inside some faith schools, Islamic in particular, should also tell you about popular feeling. The more you and others of your religion go on about issues like this, the more you harden the views of those who are opposed to it.
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    I think I've mentioned this, but I've seen several reports that Pakistani Madrases are essentially bomber factories, with young men being fanatasised by their teachers, then sent to die in Afghanistan. And in any case, they're not your schools, they're British schools, run in a British fashion. Don't like it? Get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
    Free Our Schools
    Almost all children now believe they go to school to pass exams. The idea that they may be there for an education is irrelevant. State schools have become exam factories, interested only in A to C Grades. They do not educate children. Exam results do not reflect a candidate’s innate ability. Employers have moaned for years that too many employees cannot read or write properly. According to a survey, school-leavers and even graduates lack basic literacy and numeracy skills. More and more companies are having to provide remedial training to new staff, who can’t write clear instructions, do simple maths, or solve problems. Both graduates and school-leavers were also criticised for their sloppy time-keeping, ignorance of basic customer service and lack of self-discipline.

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children. Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.

    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt out” from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.

    There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.

    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

    Sorry to sound harsh but I think this is a bunch of reactionary nonsense, and some convenient excuse making.
    I agree whole heartedly with the first 3 sentences, but from then on it becomes a poster for radicalising and retarding children. You start your argument well, but then proceed to suggest that the solution to the lamantable state of our childrens education would be a large dose of religious fundamentalism.
    Might I suggest that the real reason that Muslim children are confused about their identity is because their parents are trying to inflict on them a medievil culture and belief system that is totally alien to the 21st century world they have to live in.
    As has already been stated, faith schools in this country, no matter their religious stripe, are a menace to society. They retard childrens education and development, teach them lies and falsehoods, and ultimately radicalise them in a way that makes it almost impossible for them to intergrate.
    The Mosques of Britain are failing miserabley to help to intergrate young Muslims, worst of all Muslim women.
    This great country has shown that multi ethnicity can be of great benefit to our society, and long may we be a multi ethnic society.
    On the other hand, multi culturalism is a disaster.
    If Muslims want their children to be educated about Islam in school, then they will have to accept that it takes equal time alongside other religions in the cariculem with the emphasis on history rather than indoctrination.
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    Re: Free Our Schools

    Iftikhar, might I suggest that if you are going to argue in favour of something to which the majority of the public are so opposed that you formulate a much stronger argument than one based solely on statements by yourself. References would be nice, perhaps some logic, a good dose of statistics if relevant, some critical thinking would probably be beneficial as well. If you genuinely want to argue a case like this then you're going have to argue it a whole lot better than you have done so far.

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    Iftikhar, you're so boring that I'm surprised you can even stand to keep copying your rant from one thread to the next.
    Let me break down for you a definition of pretty much every thread you've started.

    Perhaps 3 lines of genuinely useful and insightful observations.
    dissertation on how much better bilingual Muslims are than the rest of us
    Rant about how the needs of Muslims must somehow take precedence over the way our education system is currently run.
    the following quote: "Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual teachers as role models during their developmental periods. All state schools where Muslim pupils are the majority should be designated as Muslim community schools."
    Rant about how Muslims are being persecuted in this country just because we don't want it to be run 100% in accordance with the demands of the Islamic faith.
    Scare stories and phobia-driven rants about homosexuals, lesbians, feminists, and whatever else is guaranteed to make people hate you.
    A reminder of how brilliant bilingual Muslim-only schools staffed exclusively by Muslims are.
    A link to http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

    we get it. Now find something original to say or move on.

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    The free school policy will be subject to the motivations of the people running the schools. On one hand this is a great move in favour of free thinking and free education and on the other it could be a move towards corperate owned brainwashing camps run for profit. It remains to be seen what rules they will have. For example if there was a Christian school opened that educated kids from the point of view of libertairians and taught against the domination of elites, I doubt it would be long before there would be an mi5 "teacher" dressed like a stormtrooper goosestepping up and down the corridors.

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