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    How Bush and Blair Plotted in secret against Brown

    Apparently Blair considered staying on as PM to prevent Gordon Brown rising to the vacancy when he left.

    As much as I am concerned at the damage GB did in the intervening period, I would not have liked Tony Blair to stay on either; we need to establish a refined system for succession as merely allowing the deputy to take over clearly is not adequate. An election would be nice but I doubt that this proposal is going to receive universal support?

    How Bush and Blair plotted in secret to stop Brown - Telegraph

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    Re: How Bush and Blair Plotted in secret against Brown

    That's a concern, although not a surprise, that American opinion over rides that of the British people!

    Don't know about anyone else but this bit puts Brown up in my estimation, and reminds me how once apon a time I considered him one of the better ones:

    "Senior officials in the US administration sounded the alert after a meeting between Mr Brown and Condoleezza Rice, Mr Bush’s secretary of state, in which Mr Brown “harangued” her over American policy on aid, development and Africa."
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    Re: How Bush and Blair Plotted in secret against Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Opinionated View Post
    "Senior officials in the US administration sounded the alert after a meeting between Mr Brown and Condoleezza Rice, Mr Bush’s secretary of state, in which Mr Brown “harangued” her over American policy on aid, development and Africa."
    Do I agree with you in putting Brown up in your estimation or not after this? It really depends on which side of the fence they were sitting, which I really don't know, but if Brown was haranguing her about the USA not giving enough aid etc., to Africa, then I'm afraid we'll have to disagree on the basis of him exhibiting early signs of his developing love of giving other people's tax money away! If it was the other way round, fair comment.
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    Gordon Brown VS. Condoleezza Rice so post-Blair U.S. concern

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Hennessy and Andrew Alderson in the Independent
    Senior officials in the US administration sounded the alert after a meeting between Mr Brown and Condoleezza Rice, Mr Bush’s secretary of state, in which Mr Brown “harangued” her over American policy on aid, development and Africa.

    After the uncomfortable session, sources said she reported her misgivings to the White House, and they were sent on in turn to Mr Blair.

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    A senior Labour source said: “After Condi Rice met Gordon for the first time she complained to the White House about the way he behaved. No 10 suddenly starting getting these messages from the White House that there were grave doubts about the desirability of Gordon taking over. It wasn’t just the White House either, it was other people based in the US, business leaders, people like that.”

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    How dare Brown harangue Condi when Condi was doing such a fine job as regards American policy on aid, development and Africa!



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    We didn't just focus on the threat of 9/11 but also tried to look to deal with root causes so the international compassion agenda which had to do with doubling foreign assistance for Latin America, quadrupling foreign assistance in Africa, tripling it world wide. The President's emergency AIDS relief programme, the Malaria initiative, girls' education.

    These were elements of a foreign policy agenda that while not directly responsive to 9/11 were responsive to the idea that you had to make a better world that failed states, hopelessness among people were among the causes of what happened to us and so I am pleased that we were able to do that.

    I have a feeling sometimes when I look back over the headlines that it was a bit swamped by 9/11.
    So let me see if I understand this correctly?

    President Bush and Condoleezza Rice triple American foreign assistance including quadrupling assistance to Africa, have a emergency AIDS relief programme and a Malaria initiative and promote girls' education. That sounds really useful for the poor people of the world. Thank you Condi. You are an angel.

    Whereas Brown offers the world's poor people the example of subjugating yourself to an undemocratic monarch such as Queen Elizabeth in order to get a high profile job and that's his solution to problems of poverty and underdevelopment? Sounds not much use at all to the poor people of the world. Go away Gordon, you are a royalist fool and an embarrassment.

    Then Brown dares to harangue Condi because he thinks he knows better?

    Grrr! Brown can think himself lucky that he is a nobody who is not worth bothering about though I suppose there is always the danger that he will continue to sabotage the Labour Party by promoting his preferred candidate for Labour leader who presumably he would wish to ape his insulting behaviour to the Americans, the greatest friends of the poor people of the world?

    Condi acted wisely towards making poverty history, banishing poverty from this world for all time.

    Brown thought becoming the Queen's Prime Minister for a time is all the history worth making.

    Condi was right. Brown was wrong.

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    Re: How Bush and Blair Plotted in secret against Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Apparently Blair considered staying on as PM to prevent Gordon Brown rising to the vacancy when he left.

    As much as I am concerned at the damage GB did in the intervening period, I would not have liked Tony Blair to stay on either; we need to establish a refined system for succession as merely allowing the deputy to take over clearly is not adequate. An election would be nice but I doubt that this proposal is going to receive universal support?

    How Bush and Blair plotted in secret to stop Brown - Telegraph
    Hi,

    obviously Bush & Blair were complete incompetents but it does show they colluded in corruption.

    We didn't want the economically illiterate Brown in office either but Blair & Bush were too useless to prevent him - what a stunning admission!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: How Bush and Blair Plotted in secret against Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins View Post
    Hi,

    obviously Bush & Blair were complete incompetents but it does show they colluded in corruption.
    Clearly Bush was incompetent, but Blair merely had a different style which made the Labour party electable; we now know Gordon Brown was reversing that.

    We didn't want the economically illiterate Brown in office either but Blair & Bush were too useless to prevent him - what a stunning admission!!!!!!!!!
    Fortunately Blair and Bush do not decide who becomes British prime minister!
    Last edited by Midas; 01-09-2010 at 08:46 AM. Reason: Corrected quote tags

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