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    soloman Guest

    Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money

    Is this just the tip of the iceberg? I suspect so, as I find it hard to believe that only 1 government department is so criminally inefficient.

    Where are the rest, lets hear about them soon?

    Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money - Telegraph

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    Midas Guest

    Re: Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Is this just the tip of the iceberg? I suspect so, as I find it hard to believe that only 1 government department is so criminally inefficient.

    Where are the rest, lets hear about them soon?

    Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money - Telegraph
    It seems to me to be a wonderful example of the way in which a socialist established government organisation has absolutely no responsibility or accountability and grows like the proverbial Topsy in order to satisfy its own needs rather than the needs of those to whom it should be accountable. After all, who cares if it costs 100 or 1,000 to process a claim, the taxpayer will cough up It really wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty more examples of such gross, almost criminal, waste of money amongst other government departments.

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    soloman Guest

    Re: Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    It seems to me to be a wonderful example of the way in which a socialist established government organisation has absolutely no responsibility or accountability and grows like the proverbial Topsy in order to satisfy its own needs rather than the needs of those to whom it should be accountable. After all, who cares if it costs 100 or 1,000 to process a claim, the taxpayer will cough up It really wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty more examples of such gross, almost criminal, waste of money amongst other government departments.
    Are we ever going to find out about all of these inefficiences, and even more important make sure they do not recur? I would prefer to see public scrutiny available since clearly MPs themselves cannot do it.

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    Re: Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money

    Quote Originally Posted by soloman View Post
    Is this just the tip of the iceberg? I suspect so, as I find it hard to believe that only 1 government department is so criminally inefficient.

    Where are the rest, lets hear about them soon?

    Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money - Telegraph
    The Rural Payments Agency is not only hopelessly inefficient, but based on a wholly flawed agricultural philosophy and policy (European Union). In essence anybody with a hectare or more of undeveloped land is entitled to an escalating payment per hectare until 2012, when a new set of payments are to be introduced. I have approximately five hectares of qualifying pasture land forming part of my property. It is non-commercial and solely for our own use grazing horses (i.e. leisure land), and for taking haylage to feed our own horses, yet we applied for and legitimately qualify for the payment, which while starting several years ago at just a couple of hundred pounds per annum, by 2012 will be well over 1000. It is frankly unjustified that landowners who own and use their land for their own pleasure and leisure should legitimately receive what amount to agricultural subsidies. (garden, woodland, ponds, lakes and land covered by agricultural buildings or artificial surfaces are excluded).

    Criticise me by all means for taking this 'tax refund', but I pay enough tax in other areas to feel quite comfortable and even smug at getting this fairly modest amount back.

    However the number of forms, guidance notes and pamphlets and brochures, much of it printed in colour, which we receive from the Rural Payments Agency, after just three years had created a file some four inches thick. On average we receive our payment three to four months late. This is immaterial to us, but for small commercial farmers struggling to make a living within the most bureaucratic, artificially manipulated, subsidised and regulated industry in Europe, this and longer delays can be the difference between survival or not.

    I have no doubt that you are absolutely right in suggesting that this is just the tip of one of many icebergs. The plethora of QUANGOs and NGOs responsible for spending billions of pounds of our taxes with far less rigorous accountability than private enterprises must, and I am sure will be, close to the top of the governments 'cutting list'.

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    Re: Farm payments agency still wasting taxpayers' money

    The biggest waste of our billions of taxes must be placed at the door of the 'Employment Exchange'! Thousands of able bodied people are walking away from this department with good cash and a bounty of benifits to keep them in comfort and freedom to lounge about like 'Lords of Leisure' Thousands of pounds of crops are dying in British fields for lack of able-bodied labour, labour that shy's away from honest graft, simply because our political masters are too stupid to organise a decent reliable work-force, subsidised-transported to British farms; daily!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield39 View Post
    The biggest waste of our billions of taxes must be placed at the door of the 'Employment Exchange'! Thousands of able bodied people are walking away from this department with good cash and a bounty of benifits to keep them in comfort and freedom to lounge about like 'Lords of Leisure' Thousands of pounds of crops are dying in British fields for lack of able-bodied labour, labour that shy's away from honest graft, simply because our political masters are too stupid to organise a decent reliable work-force, subsidised-transported to British farms; daily!
    I think, or at least hope, that our latest group of 'political masters' will be less understanding and indulgent of the sponger mongers in our society. Government estimates indicate that over 100,000 benefit claimants receive more in handouts than the average worker earns before income tax and NI. You couldn't make it up!!

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    where the hell are all these jobs thats what I'd like to know,as most farm work is done by immigrants lol you couldn't make it up, roll on floor laughing my rocks off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubar View Post
    where the hell are all these jobs thats what I'd like to know,as most farm work is done by immigrants lol you couldn't make it up, roll on floor laughing my rocks off.
    You've answered your own question - many of the farm jobs are taken by immigrants. If they weren't here those jobs would be filled by British people, taking many of them off the dole.

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    where the hell are all these jobs thats what I'd like to know,as most farm work is done by immigrants lol you couldn't make it up, roll on floor laughing my rocks off.
    As Midas says, you have yourself confirmed that the jobs exist. Just because they are poorly paid few of the unemployed want them, preferring to sponge off the taxpayer, which under the present Alice in Wonderland ex-Labour system pays tens of thousands of benefit claimants more than many a hard working tax paying worker can earn. Reduce immigration as far as legislation will allow and enforce it, and make long term living off the state a last resort and enforce that, and we might be able to minimise unnecessary welfare payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Sinic View Post
    Just because they are poorly paid few of the unemployed want them, preferring to sponge off the taxpayer, which under the present Alice in Wonderland ex-Labour system pays tens of thousands of benefit claimants more than many a hard working tax paying worker can earn.,.
    the the immegrants that do these poorly paid jobs, can only do so when we either don't provide the work force and we are unable to earn enough money to warent comeing of the dole without subsadising the wage with working tax credit,s, that leaves them in the same position as they were before that is living on a sustanance wage which is tountamount to a slaves wage, exually it can be seen as slavery when you consider that the unemployed these days are employed by the state as thay sign a contract and recive a sustanance payment in the guise of unemployement benifit. this system is and dose exsactly what it is intended to do. Keep people unemployed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Sinic View Post
    Reduce immigration as far as legislation will allow and enforce it,.
    The Government Can't reduce immigration because thay run a multicultural policy's.and a open border policy. Is the government responsibility to provide the necessary industrial policy to provide jobs in the first place, so stop blaming the long term unemployed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Sinic View Post
    and make long term living off the state a last resort and enforce that, and we might be able to minimise unnecessary welfare payments.
    The responsibility for this situation lies firmly with the government or should I say the Europe's open border policy and multicultural policy, now the government have given you an others another enemy to attack when you should be attacking them as there is no industrial polices in place, then again we have no industry to speak off, so why have an industrial policy to create jobs?? our shops are full of goods from foreign countries we are making more and more people unemployed we spend less means less money and less jobs, this country's economy is based on consumerism we consume other countries goods,even the companies that are classed as English are owned by foreign countries or dodgy bankers, even our food is either imported or produced by foreign countries so I will ask again Where are all the Jobs going to come from for all the unemployed and soon to be unemployed.
    As no industry no farming= no money= no consumerism= no jobs= less money=even less jobs=starvation = salvation by who??
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