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    Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    The coalition party's got around 17.5 million votes combined, if the coalition is successful, and their voters like it, they could turn the coalition into one party, and that would mean those 17.5 million voters abliterating all opposition at the next general election, effectively, the Labour party would become as big as UKIP/BNP/Greens.

    Initially, Labour will get about 600 2nd places, but with very few or no MP's to show for it, party interest would plummet.

    What an opportunity Cameroon and Clegg have, thats if they've noticed it.
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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    That's tosh, if it goes well the public perception of coalition governments will improve but the merging of the two very different parties would simply not happen, are you trying to wind up Labour supporters?

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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    it depends on how labour responds and recognises the potential of hegemony that this coalition has. the party has to reach out to ordinary people and really listen! no more civil liberty restrictions- NO MORE WARS!!!!- reconnecting our core supporters-embracing PR- look at the doorstep campaigns in Barking and Dagenham that destroyed the BNP- Margaret Hodge increased her vote in Barking! it's about hard work-listening-responding intelligently and no knee jerk-'this caolition will fail!'-we can win-labour isn't dead- all we did was lose the election! that's democracy!

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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by joethfc View Post
    That's tosh, if it goes well the public perception of coalition governments will improve but the merging of the two very different parties would simply not happen, are you trying to wind up Labour supporters?
    I wouldn't take much notice of NPs fantasy musings even if the Lib Dems folded,[which won't happen] their members have to find a political home and the natural home for most urban Lib Dems is the Labour party. Most rural Lib Dems would vote Tory, in both cases with exceptions.

    The most dangerous aspect of the outcome of this general election is Camerons proposal for a 55% majority needed in a no confidence vote to throw out a Tory minority government if the Lib Dems left the coalition and joined the opposition benches.

    My guess is that something will trigger the Lib Dem/Con pact to break down well before the five year fixed tenure [Vince Cable rumblings already] and will end in some form of Lib/Lab opposition deal along with the other minority parties. That's why Cameron is pushing through this 55% needed for a no confidence vote to call an election. It would mean the Tories continuing to rule as a minority government for the full five years.

    The most controversial Tory policy item is their proposal to reduce the number of MPs by 10% and the reforming of constituency boundaries which they think would keep the Tories permanently in office. I doubt if Lib Dem MPs or members would stand for this blatant attempt at gerrymandering.

    Cameron accused of proposing anarchy by his own party:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7127382.ece

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ered-down.html
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/elec...-demanded.html
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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    latest poll ratings:


    YouGov/Sun August 2nd: CON 42% LAB 38% LDEM 12%
    YouGov/Sun August 3rd: CON 41% LAB 36% LDEM 13%
    YouGov/Sun August 4th: CON 42% LAB 36% LDEM 13%
    YouGov/Sun August 5th: CON 44% LAB 36% LDEM 13%

    quite obvious by the lib dems fall people don't like coalitions, also the Tories are right wing, lib dems are centre left

    it'll never happen

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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by radical change View Post
    latest poll ratings:


    YouGov/Sun August 2nd: CON 42% LAB 38% LDEM 12%
    YouGov/Sun August 3rd: CON 41% LAB 36% LDEM 13%
    YouGov/Sun August 4th: CON 42% LAB 36% LDEM 13%
    YouGov/Sun August 5th: CON 44% LAB 36% LDEM 13%

    quite obvious by the lib dems fall people don't like coalitions, also the Tories are right wing, lib dems are centre left

    it'll never happen
    It's also quite obvious that the Tory/LibDem coalition's lead over Labour is around 20%......
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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Expounder View Post
    I wouldn't take much notice of NPs fantasy musings even if the Lib Dems folded,[which won't happen] their members have to find a political home and the natural home for most urban Lib Dems is the Labour party. Most rural Lib Dems would vote Tory, in both cases with exceptions.

    The most dangerous aspect of the outcome of this general election is Camerons proposal for a 55% majority needed in a no confidence vote to throw out a Tory minority government if the Lib Dems left the coalition and joined the opposition benches.

    My guess is that something will trigger the Lib Dem/Con pact to break down well before the five year fixed tenure [Vince Cable rumblings already] and will end in some form of Lib/Lab opposition deal along with the other minority parties. That's why Cameron is pushing through this 55% needed for a no confidence vote to call an election. It would mean the Tories continuing to rule as a minority government for the full five years.

    The most controversial Tory policy item is their proposal to reduce the number of MPs by 10% and the reforming of constituency boundaries which they think would keep the Tories permanently in office. I doubt if Lib Dem MPs or members would stand for this blatant attempt at gerrymandering.

    Cameron accused of proposing anarchy by his own party:

    Revealed: Cable’s last ditch calls to Brown - Times Online

    David Cameron admits 'no confidence' coalition vote plan could be watered down - Telegraph
    Coalition Goverment: Revolt looms over five-year Parliament 'stitch-up' that Lib Dems demanded | Mail Online
    You sound such a sweet innocent boy, which is probably why your in thrall to a devious, stinking pack of poseurs such as labour. No one will ever vote labour other than those labour cultists on the make and take, I said you would lose and I now say your party will never again be in Government.
    Do stop wasting your time and find an honest interest.

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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    You lot had 13 years to find democracy, it was around when you came into power but somehow you mislaid it ....... as a result we have, I believe in perpetuity, a Nazi Coalition. Don't waste your time looking for Votes they mean nothing anymore. I guess 30 to 50 years of fascist control. As you lot don't have the balls to do ought about it and, on past form, its unlikely that your gang will do ought but take the money and expenses, give us an occassional bleat from your 3/4th property - all as before. In the nicest way bug...er off, us, the working class which you mislaid along with your integrity, are better off sorting it out for ourselves. And, take the useless Unions with you. We can't afford passengers.

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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by news presenter View Post
    The coalition party's got around 17.5 million votes combined, if the coalition is successful, and their voters like it, they could turn the coalition into one party, and that would mean those 17.5 million voters obliterating all opposition at the next general election, effectively, the Labour party would become as big as UKIP/BNP/Greens.

    Initially, Labour will get about 600 2nd places, but with very few or no MP's to show for it, party interest would plummet.

    What an opportunity Cameroon and Clegg have, that's if they've noticed it.
    You Hope, you haven't a clue about the roots of the Labour party and it's strengths, anyway your coalitions 17.5 millions votes will be very much depleted as the Lib Dem voters, many who are already joining Labour, will regard voting Lib Dem as a vote for the junior Tories.
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    Re: Could the coalition destroy Labour at the next General Election?

    Cuts havn't even taken hold yet and Labour currently occasionally overtake the torys in the polls. On recent trends they would be projected to be the largest party in parliament, because the current electoral system (championed by the conservatives :S ) allows labour to gain a bigger share of seats with a lower share of the vote. UK Polling Report

    The Liberal Democrats have no desire to merge with the Conservatives because, apart from costing them a lot of votes, their policy is much more aligned with the stances which Labour take, there are far too man sticking points (Europe, immigration, family values) between tory and lib dem policy, even if they are prepared to put them aside for this parliament.
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