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Thread: Half of Britons reject evolution, survey finds

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    Half of Britons reject evolution, survey finds

    "Half of British adults do not believe in evolution, with at least 22% preferring the theories of creationism or intelligent design to explain how the world came about, according to a survey.The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is "definitely true", with another quarter saying it is "probably true". Half of the 2,060 people questioned were either strongly opposed to the theory or confused about it.
    The Rescuing Darwin survey, published to coincide with the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of *Species, found that around 10% of people chose young Earth creationism the belief that God created the world some time in the last 10,000 years over evolution.
    About 12% preferred intelligent design, the idea that evolution alone is not enough to explain the structures of living organisms. The remainder were unsure, often mixing evolution, intelligent design and creationism together. The survey was conducted by the polling agency ComRes on behalf of the Theos think tank."

    Half of Britons reject evolution, Darwin anniversary survey finds | Science | guardian.co.uk

    I am 99% Theory of Evolution but cannot completely rule out the possibility of Intelligent design (something created from nothing ) , which camp do you belong to ?

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    I'm suprised at that statistic to be honest. I always thought we were more open to evolution than our cousins across the pond...it seems not by much.

    I'm reminded of the best quote I ever heard with regards to this issue on Louis Theroux, whilst attending an evangelical church one parishoner offered "If evolution existed, God would have told us about it". I think that says it all really.

    I'm about 90% myself, but my Catholic upbringing supplies just enough guilt to not discount intelligent design altogether.
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    I'm staggered at those figures! I thought that we were far more rational about such stuff than the Americans are; after all, they're the home of 90% of the whacky religious and quasi-religious ideas there are.

    I find it incredible how people can be so arrogant in their own self-importance as to believe that all we see around us has been created especially for the human race! We're just one species of millions on just one planet surrounding one star in some 100 billion in our galaxy alone, which itself is just one of an estimated 200 billion other galaxies.

    And they seriously think that some unprovable supernatural being came along however millennia ago and decide to create all this just for us, in exactly the form it is, so that we would look at it all this time later and be able to say how it also met all the known scientific criteria relating to birth planetary and biological evolution? Sheesh!
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    Here is my two pennies:

    Creationism: If Humans were created why did this creator create such imperfect, vile creatures that merely wage war with one another?

    Intelligent Design: This follows on from Creationism. If this creator is intelligent, why did he make humans? I say he because if it were a woman things would be totally different. For example, Shoes and makeup would always be on sale...

    Thus through process of bad elimination, evolution is the only theory to accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Authoritarian View Post
    Here is my two pennies:

    Creationism: If Humans were created why did this creator create such imperfect, vile creatures that merely wage war with one another?

    Intelligent Design: This follows on from Creationism. If this creator is intelligent, why did he make humans? I say he because if it were a woman things would be totally different. For example, Shoes and makeup would always be on sale...

    Thus through process of bad elimination, evolution is the only theory to accept.
    I agree, evolution all the way.

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    Although it's not been specifically mentioned here, a lot of people, particularly in the USA talk of 'Creationist Science'. Just to clarify this, creationism is not and never will be 'a science' for two major reasons.
    1. The hypothesis/solution of creationism is not based on analysis and observation of the empirical world, it comes directly from the bible and from nowhere else.
    2. As there is no way to test the theory, creationism cannot follow the scientific method because testing is a fundamental component of that method.
    Even prominent creationists like Henry Morris and Duane Gish, who between them pretty much started creationism, have admitted that creationism is not scientific in creationist literature. In Biblical Cosmology and Modern Science, Morris, while discussing catastrophism and the supposed flood of Noah said:-
    We cannot verify this experimentally, of course, any more than any of the various other theories of catastrophism [e.g. Velikovsky], but we do not need experimental verification; God has recorded it in His Word, and that should be sufficient.
    This is a statement of religious faith, not a statement of scientific discovery. Even more revealing, Duane Gish in Evolution? The Fossils Say No! wrote:-
    We do not know how the Creator created, [or] what processes He used, for He used processes which are not now operating anywhere in the natural universe. This is why we refer to creation as special creation. We cannot discover by scientific investigation anything about the creative processes used by the Creator.
    When even the founders of the theory basically admit that creationism is not testable and clearly state that biblical revelation is both the source and 'verification' of their ideas and is not considered scientific, how on earth can anyone else be expected to take it seriously as a science?
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    Evolution for me. There is more evidence to suggest a theory of evolution, yet all we have in support of creationism is a book written thousands of years ago.
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    Well I believe in God, but I also see the logic in evolution - so for me its a mixture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble43 View Post
    Well I believe in God, but I also see the logic in evolution - so for me its a mixture.
    I personally find this intruiging, and think that it is a prime example of how religion simply rejects evidence, rather than not being influenced by it. A few hundred years ago, one of the prime arguments, indeed for many people THE argument, for belief in god was that the world around us was inexplicable otherwise. There was no other reason given by anyone for how we came to exist, and so people believed in god, much as evolution is now the best explanation (the key difference being evidence) and so most educated people accept it as truth.

    It just goes to show that, even though all of the historical arguments in favour of god have become null and void in light of modern knowledge, the church simply evolves itself (ironic, perhaps?) and changes its views. I find it stunning that anyone can accept such a fluid organisation that changes its opinions in such a way... It's almost as if all Tories became Labour supporters, but because they were still Tory by name their supporters ('believers' if you like) accepted it.

    The 'explanation' that you might like, Trouble, is that evolution was simply god's tool. He supposedly created the universe in the knowledge that evolution would eventually lead to humanity. I suppose this works, to an extent, but you wonder why he wouldn't get straight to the point.

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    There is another alternative theory.

    Evolution was the start, which brought us up to cave man status but how did we get so intelligent so quickly?

    Some believe aliens came around 10000 years ago and mated with the early humans. They believe they influenced the Pyramid generation and helped built Atlantis.
    NASA has also found pyramid shaped objects on the surface of the Mars and many believe the US government is covering up the fact that there is evidence of these manmade objects on the surface.
    The theory isnt that Mars once had a population; the theory is Mars was once a colony and base for the aliens but not their origin.
    These aliens used humans as slaves but breaded with us to give humans more intelligence.
    This is why there are many references to god like beings coming from the sky in nearly every ancient history. There are so many wonders on this planet that have no explanation of how they were built with the primitive technology at that time.

    I personally dont agree with this but its very interesting. There are many unexplained things on this planet. One of them is where did we get our intelligence from? Why are we the only animals on the planet with intelligence and the means to talk?
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